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Chapter 1: Introductions
[0:00] There was a an advanced civilization in antiquity that got destroyed through cataclysm. There were pockets of
[0:07] survival and the Templar Order was really about tracking down those pockets of survival to try to rebuild
[0:15] civilization, but it shows these flying discs in the
[0:22] sky. We've never showed this before anywhere. It appears that these arcs were like uh like an electrostatic
[0:30] capacitor. So, we have six of these arcs and and we're looking to reveal them very soon. The vault that they're buried
[0:38] in is I can reveal right now. It
[0:51] Well, good man. Yeah, I think the last time you were here was episode number 10 or something. Yeah, something something like that.
[0:59] Yeah, it was very early on and you're you've you've had some great people on ever since then. It's been it's been fun to watch.
[1:07] Yeah. Cool. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been great. I've been uh and but your your your episode that we did together was uh just one of one of the best that
[1:15] we did and it was very early on and um it just that thing just took off. I think it was a top episode for a long time.
[1:23] It was It was uh Well, it was fun. One of the things I love about interviewing with you is you're you have very thoughtful
[1:32] questions and you're and you're willing to go a little deeper with things. You know, I mean, some podcasters are,
[1:39] you know, they it's it's like surface and quick and and uh yeah, you know, I don't know. I hear you.
[1:50] You know what I mean? But but you Yeah. You have a great show.
[1:55] So I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:57] Yeah. We've got something special here for sure. And and a lot of growth lately, so that's been pretty exciting. Yeah, it's exciting. Yep. Yep. How How have you been, man?
[2:05] Been doing really good. Uh really good.
[2:08] I mean, we've been so uh I did um
[2:17] Oh, so at one point in time I was I I was hired by the Gaia Network. Uh they
[2:25] have a Jüka, the owner of uh Gaia. He has a secret lab
[2:34] at the Gaia Studios and he and he and he wanted to hire me to make monatomic gold for him.
[2:42] Huh.
[2:43] And uh and uh that he could use in in his his his supplements that he was he was going
[2:51] to be making available to people. And so I so I went and I you know I was like sure, yeah, I'll do that. If you want to hire me to do that, I'll do that. So I
[3:00] 3 minutes
so I so I started I was using his labs to make it and I quickly realized he was basically trying to steal the recipe from me.
[3:10] Okay.
[3:11] So then I was like what do I do? So I I kind of like I uh
[3:21] he had this this lab assistant that was following me around taking notes of everything. And so I kind of strung out
[3:29] the process a little bit and I was like, "Oh no, I mean I got to what am I going to do here?" Like, so I
[3:37] went ahead and and set up a company where I sold it in myself and uh and it
[3:45] blew up and it's been doing really well. So So I've been selling that and I've been doing the the tours.
[3:55] Um and and uh the research and we're trying to get um we're trying to get everything ready to
[4:03] to open these vaults. I've been working with Scott Walter on that and uh we hope to reveal all that pretty soon. So I've
[4:12] been working with the tribes um so that they're they're a part of that. And uh
[4:21] and then meanwhile um in Egypt
[4:27] uh I help I helped discover some new things there and that's part of the reason why the Egyptian government's just working with me now for the tours.
[4:38] They're just giving me access to stuff because I I helped discover a bunch of things for them or what I think
[4:46] are probable things that they hadn't considered before. So, uh Well, that's pretty big.
[4:54] Yes. That's my life at the at the moment. So, it's been very busy. Yeah. Very good. That's some big stuff going on. Yeah, exactly.
[5:01] Cool. So, that we'll we'll talk about all that. Yeah. Yeah. It would be great. Be great. Great. Okay. Okay.
[5:06] All right. Well, maybe we just for a second just back up to the beginning in case people aren't familiar with you and just do do a quick introduction of yourself.
[5:14] AB: Absolutely. And and I also I gave Ryan some if you wanted to get into it.
[5:21] Um, I gave Ryan some photos of UAPs
[5:29] from Templar paintings and documents from the late 1500s.
[5:38] Oh, okay. Um, let's do that.
[5:40] Which we can talk about cuz I haven't revealed that on any other Okay. podcasts anywhere.
[5:46] Okay. And that might be kind of a fun thing to do since you are willing to get into that. I love that. Yeah.
[5:54] Great.
[5:55] Um, that'll be fun. Ryan's got them. Yeah, he's got them. Okay. Okay.
[5:59] Yeah. So, all right.
[6:01] So, Ryan, make notes of these things so we don't miss any of them. I'm sure we won't, but but uh yeah, let's let's do it, man. Those are some great topics.
[6:09] Yeah. Cool. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Right on. Okay. All right. Well, cool. Well, yeah.
[6:14] Let's let's uh if you could just um I I think we've added since you uh were on the show last we've added over 400,000
[6:21] subscribers. So, there's probably some people that that are not familiar with you. Yeah. Very good.
[6:25] Yeah. Yeah. So, quick introduction if you can. Yep.
[6:29] So, uh my name is Timothy Hogan. I'm the 33rd
[6:36] grandmaster of the Templars since Jack D. Malay was burnt at the stake in 1314.
[6:44] He was uh what some people say was the last grandmaster of the Templar Order, but actually he was just the last
[6:52] Grandmaster under Roman Catholic patronage.
[6:59] Um but there's been 33 grandmasters since him as the Templar Order was somewhat
[7:07] underground. And so I'm I'm the 33rd as far as that goes. Um I'm also a a a
[7:15] Freemason and a and a Rosacrruian and a Martist and uh so I study a lot of the Western esoteric tradition.
[7:27] Um I've written I'm an author. I've I've published several books and uh I lecture
[7:35] all over the world too. So, uh, that's kind of a brief brief and, you know, and
[7:41] I have some like a a show on Gaia, mysteries of the Knights Templar, and uh, as well as I appear as a expert
[7:51] on their ancient civilization show. So, very cool. Very cool. Kind of a general background. Yeah. Very cool. You got a lot going on.
[7:59] Yeah.
[8:00] 8 minutes
And, uh, yeah, you were on this show early on. It was about two over two years ago now. Yeah. Yeah.
[8:05] So, I think you were maybe episode 10 or something like that. I know. You've grown a lot since then. It's been great. Yeah.
[8:11] And you have a you have an incredible new studio.
[8:14] Oh, thank you. Thank you. Yeah. We were in this room last time, right?
[8:17] Yeah. It was just it was positioned differently, right?
[8:20] And uh yeah, it was it looked a little different, but uh it I I love it now.
[8:25] Yeah. Yeah. Cool. Cool. Thank you. Well, I appreciate you coming back, man. It's going to be Yeah. Thanks for having me back.
[8:29] Absolutely. Yeah. It'll be fun to get into some of the the stuff that you're working on today. So, um, where's a good place to start? You've got a handful of
[8:37] things going on, different projects, different cool things we're going to talk about today.
[8:41] Yeah, I mean, uh, you know, I've I've been, uh, busy with, um,
[8:50] uh, so I have a tour company, Templar Travel Tours.
Chapter 2: Egypt
[8:55] Uh, we, we look at, uh, uh, we do, we do Egypt tours. Uh we work
[9:02] directly with the Egyptian government so we have access to
[9:08] pretty much everything and uh we're able to go visit the temples when they're closed
[9:17] uh so that we have them to ourselves which has been really great. Um, this
[9:25] last I was thinking of you actually. Uh, this last tour we did, we actually had a um
[9:35] uh one of the places we went to was the the step pyramid of Zozer at Sakara.
[9:41] Uh, this is where they found the majority of the um granite vases that I
[9:49] know you're a collector of. And you have one of the best collections I've seen anywhere, including uh
[9:58] within the museums. I mean, uh, I was at I was at the London Museum, uh, a few weeks ago and and they had a
[10:07] few a few of them in there, but it was like three or four.
[10:14] You have this incredible collection, but, you know, most of those were found at Sakara or uh or in in under the the step pyramid, and they're still finding them.
[10:26] So, when we were there um couple months ago, we found uh you know that they had
[10:32] found a bunch of new ones underneath the pyramid. There's a there's a number of tunnels networks that are underneath
[10:41] that whole complex. And um so we got to go down there and you get pictures of this.
[10:48] Yeah. So, so uh yeah, we uh we have a couple. So, we found there was a there was a giant boulder
[10:57] uh giant uh uh one of these these circular balls that you find all over the world. It was granite.
[11:06] Think they're doing Pilates down there or what?
[11:08] I don't know what was going on. It reminded me of Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Arc with the big, you know,
[11:15] ball that almost ran over him. It was pretty big. It was probably maybe uh you
[11:22] know 2 feet in diameter. But uh yeah, it was one of the things they found down there. And then of course and then we
[11:30] also see here there's a it's not in the best shape, but it was still, you know, one of these granite vases that they dug
[11:38] up down there. And we don't know why they were burying them down there. I mean, I think it was just to preserve
[11:45] them, maybe. Um, and as far as the the you know these big granite balls go,
[11:54] nobody knows uh what they were being used for. I mean, they're found all over the world. I mean, right.
[12:01] Um, you know, there certainly there's a bunch found down in the Yucatan and South America and uh, aren't they in Australia, too?
[12:11] Australia and even in um, Bosnia. uh where uh you know they've they've found
[12:19] uh you know there's there's speculations of a you know a pyramid complex there
[12:26] um and uh we just we really don't know what they were being used for but they
[12:33] the fact that we to my knowledge this was one of the first ones that they found in Egypt itself and the fact that
[12:42] it's buried underneath the pyramid with all the this the granite pottery. I
[12:49] mean, I I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what that means, but uh that's kind of a
[12:56] new discovery. So, it's it's uh they had just dug that up like uh maybe a couple months ago. So,
[13:03] any idea what that weighs? It's got to be,000 pounds or something.
[13:07] Yeah. Yeah. It's it's heavy. I mean, it's it's it's really heavy. I mean, they they kind of left it where they found it, you know, even
[13:15] they haven't even tried to move it yet, but it was down in one of the these roll it down. You can't roll it back up.
[13:21] Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's uh um but it's interesting, you know. I
[13:29] mean, it's it's again, it's one of those things that suggest, you know, some sort of a worldwide
[13:36] culture in antiquity. and um or
[13:44] it's a natural formation of some kind that then gets carved further by people and it's just something that people do.
[13:51] But I I don't think so. I think it was it it served a purpose at some point. I just don't know what it was.
[13:59] Yeah.
[14:00] 14 minutes
Yeah. That's crazy. They're still finding fragments of vases and full vases down there. Yeah. It's wild, man.
[14:07] Yeah. When were you inar apparently at one point in time there were there were just thousands of them that
[14:13] you could find around that area and um but yeah I was there I was there uh yeah just a few months ago. So cool.
[14:23] Um, and I'll be going back there in March. And I think uh there's talks right now with uh
[14:31] several members of the Navajo tribe actually here in the United States and they want to go on the on the tour in
[14:39] March, which should be interesting. I think that'll be really cool to see. I hope they go because it'll be
[14:46] uh it'll be cool to see. There's a there's a lot of similarities actually between
[14:53] that ancient Egyptian culture and some of the native cultures here in the Americas.
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And uh uh some some tribal members actually
[15:07] believe that they originally came from Egypt over here. And uh certainly you can see that with some
[15:14] of the particularly the Zouri and the and the the Hopi tribes. They their cacas that they have are very similar looking
[15:23] to the Egyptian uh needers, Egyptian gods, you know, these these animal headed people
[15:32] basically, you know, and and uh it's a similar similar thing. So, it' be interesting to
[15:40] see their take on on uh some of the Egyptian stuff
[15:49] if they do go. So, for sure. Yeah. So, I want to get into the uh we're going to talk about the you're you're in contact with um the
[15:57] some Native American tribes about potentially opening up some of the vaults that we had talked about. Yeah. Yeah. On the last episode.
[16:04] Yeah, that's right. So, but was was there anything else from Egypt prior to kind of moving because that's a big pivot. Was there anything
[16:13] else from your your uh travels or uh just that just that uh yeah, I've been doing a lot of work with Egyptian
[16:20] antiquities. Um, one of the things that I've been able to kind of bridge the gap
[16:28] on to a certain degree has to do with within the Templar tradition. One of the things we passed on is the the science of alchemy.
[16:39] And the processes of alchemy are somewhat the same depending on the substances you're working on.
[16:49] And define alchemy for I think everybody knows. But yeah, alchemy is is the transmutation of one substance into another. Uh it's the
[16:58] precursor to chemistry. I I will say one of the things that separates chemistry from alchemy was
Chapter 3: Alchemy
[17:06] uh within alchemy consciousness was part of the equation so to speak. I mean, it
[17:12] was believed that your your your thoughts could actually affect the outcome of the experiment.
[17:20] And um and that there were also
[17:27] larger patterns in nature that could also affect the outcome of the experiment.
[17:34] Um so you know most most chemists think you know matter is just inert and that it it
[17:43] uh it can it you know it it's going to be manipulated the same every time. Whereas
[17:50] within an alchemist we'll we'll look at there are cycles to things. There are uh
[17:58] there are energies that become active at different times of the day. uh different days of the week. Uh and that our
[18:07] thoughts can also affect the outcome of the experiment on a sub subatomic level which then kind
[18:15] of builds things up. And the word alchemy itself comes from alchem or alchem which was the ancient name for Egypt.
[18:24] And it was believed that this science this was a science that came out of Egypt initially. Uh it was studied by
[18:32] the Greeks, the Romans, uh Islamic uh traditions that were translating
[18:40] Greek and Roman texts uh during the Middle Ages, you know, prior to it entering into the European
[18:50] sphere. Uh but we also find alchemical processes in ancient India,
[18:58] in ancient China um and actually most most ancient cultures
[19:06] um it's just called by different names and uh but within
[19:13] Egypt itself I mean the idea that it came out of Egypt has always been passed down within the western esoteric
[19:22] tradition and certainly within the Templar tradition.
[19:27] And uh so one of the things I started looking at was the
[19:35] uh the myths, the Egyptian myths, particularly associated with Osiris and how they the god Osiris and how they
[19:43] corresponded to stages of the alchemical process.
[19:50] And I started applying that towards there's certain plants that grow in the region all all over the place in Egypt,
[19:58] but most particularly at um Carac for example.
[20:05] Um but they also grow some in the Giza plateau. There's a particular plant called dictapetylum.
[20:12] That's the the modern scientific name.
[20:16] And if you apply this the alchemical processes to it, you can extract hydrofuloric acid.
[20:25] And hydrofuloric acid pretty much eats through everything except for gold, lead, and beeswax.
[20:37] And uh and so I I I I figured out that if you take granite, for example,
[20:45] and you put a beeswax coat on it, then you could kind of cut out
[20:52] the areas that you want hieroglyphs burned into and you could create a hydrofluoric acid wash
[21:02] and it would burn out the the hieroglyphs perfectly. But you could also use it to kind of shape the stones
[21:09] cuz the the acid will eat away at the silica.
[21:14] And um that's in the granite. And uh anyhow,
[21:21] the Egyptian antiquities knew that they had they had discovered all kinds of buildings and and and boxes and and
[21:29] other things that had that were coated in beeswax. And they couldn't figure out why the Egyptians were coating them in beeswax.
[21:39] Well, it was it was because I'm I'm positive they were they were creating this wash with the hydrofluoric
[21:46] acid using the dictap pedalum plant that grows in the region. And um
[21:55] yeah, so that was kind of a great discovery. It was a it was a great breakthrough. And so when I showed when I showed them this, they were,
[22:03] you know, very excited and they uh, you know, started getting me access to things they don't get most people access to. So it was great.
[22:12] That's cool. That's cool. But it was it was it was it was a in a way it was a a reaffirmation of that you know there
[22:20] was a tradition that's been passed down you know all the really all the way from ancient Egypt uh related to these
[22:29] alchemical processes and and that's kind of exciting. It's something that, you know, Isaac Newton was studying and
[22:38] Robert Bole and and a lot of the early members of the early Royal Society of Britain, but uh
[22:47] then then it kind of like fell out of of favor for for traditional chemistry.
[22:55] Um but I think I think uh science is going to go back to it because
[23:04] physicists in the 20th century the more they started looking at the subatomic world
[23:12] uh in the quantum world uh they
[23:20] uh people like uh Maxville plank and and Heisenberg and others they all said that
[23:27] uh the more they started examining how nature
[23:34] how subatomic particles behaved the a they noticed that
[23:41] uh they were they they were like a they said it was it operated more like a a giant mind
[23:50] and the quantum field was like a giant mind that there was consciousness there
[23:56] number one and number two the observer of that was affecting the outcome of how they behaved.
[24:08] So our consciousness would actually affect it which is what alchemy was saying all along.
[24:15] So it's it's it's pretty interesting.
[24:19] Yeah. Pretty fascinating. So like a lot of this esoteric knowledge that you that you have and and some of this is now
[24:26] being being shared with with you know podcasts and with the Egyptian authorities etc etc. Where does that where does that come from? Is that like
Chapter 4: Esoteric Knowledge
[24:34] for so as grandmaster and and kind of passed down over generations and h how do how did you who was it that that kind
[24:43] of imparted a lot of this information and knowledge onto you? Yeah, I mean a lot of it was I learned within the the within the orders within the Templar
[24:52] order itself. Uh there's knowledge passed on my I also learned particularly alchemy. I learned from my grandfather
[25:01] Hugh Warren. He taught metallergy at Denver University. Um but he was a
[25:08] uh he understood some alchemy. My my my greatgrandfather
[25:15] uh James Warren was a a grand commander of the Knights Templar in uh Pennsylvania.
[25:24] And uh and my great greatgrandfather, General Joseph Warren,
[25:32] he was one of the well, some would say he was the drafter of the American
[25:38] Revolutionary War. He had uh he fought at the Battle of Bunker Hill where he
[25:45] died. uh he became the martyr of the American Revolution, but prior to that he was he he helped there he is. He
[25:54] helped uh he helped to um uh he's the one who planned the Boston
[26:01] Tea Party. Uh he initiated he was a grand commander of the Knights Templar.
[26:07] He his he initiated Paul Rivere who was a good friend of his and of course Paul River
[26:16] was a silver smith and uh so they did alchemy together. Um and uh
[26:25] and then his brother John Warren was actually the first grandmaster of Freemasonry
[26:32] in the forming United States at the time. So all of which had a huge
[26:38] influence uh on trying to create what was known as a free Templar state
[26:48] or what was also known as a new Atlantis or a new Jerusalem with the idea that
[26:57] we had a place where people had freedom and it was based on the idea that that
[27:04] that we had god-given rights because within the within the soul of everybody
[27:14] was a spark of the divine and didn't matter what religion you came from.
[27:21] Uh it was the idea that we were all a uh we all had a part of the of the source
[27:28] uh a seed of the god consciousness within us and that uh
[27:36] by allowing that by having freedoms that allowed that to grow so that uh we
[27:43] eventually become more perfect reflections of this greater consciousness.
[27:51] that is believed we're living within.
[27:55] And it was kind of a uh it was it was a what was known as a hermetic idea, which was the idea that
[28:05] if you were the creator, God, source, whatever you want to call it.
[28:12] Um, the only way and you were all that was the only way that you could create because there was nothing outside of
[28:20] yourself. The only way you could create is within your own mind.
[28:26] Therefore, everything that we think is real and solid and whatever is just the mind
[28:33] stuff or the consciousness of the creator that we're living inside of.
[28:40] And uh and because we're a part of that um we are co-creators in that process
[28:50] of of awakening and realization basically um and uh
[28:58] and so we grow into that more into that realization more and so you as an individual and with the history that you have and the heritage
[29:07] and the lineage genetic lineage and all you know all of that like what is that like? What what do you you know is that is that is there a lot of pressure? Do
Chapter 5: Your Lineage
[29:15] you feel I guess like how do you feel about kind of carrying that on educating people about it and and sort of
[29:23] you know your your role? What what I guess I guess I'm asking what do you see as kind of your purpose in this in this whole thing?
[29:31] Yeah, I well I first of all it's it feels like it's it is a big responsibility because I feel like I need to carry on the tradition.
[29:41] Uh sometimes I feel like some of the the the traditions that have come out of the
[29:49] Templars over the years are forgetting what their purpose is. you know, they've
[29:57] they've gone from being a a a school of um spiritual awakening
[30:06] into more of just fraternities, you know, or sometimes that sometimes they just become charitable organizations and
[30:15] and and charity is good. I'm not not trying to discount charity, but there's
[30:22] a lot more to it. and uh and they're sitting on really
[30:30] important information, you know, for not just for humanity's history,
[30:38] but um in some ways
[30:45] uh there there's a memory that's been passed down within the Templar traditions. And when I say the Templar traditions, I'm alluding to
[30:54] certainly Templarism, but also Freemasonry, Rosacianism, and and and and other things along those lines. But
[31:03] they were created to um to
[31:11] try to find the the origins of civilization.
[31:16] Uh there was a belief that there was a an advanced civilization in antiquity that got destroyed through cataclysm.
[31:26] And there was a there were pockets of survival. And the Templar order was really about tracking down those pockets
[31:35] of survival to try to rebuild civilization.
[31:41] Uh but in so doing uh any anybody who goes through these
[31:50] traditions are are given keys or or the fundamentals
[31:57] to rebuild civilization so that should a cataclysm happen again.
[32:03] And you know, we don't like to people don't like to think in those terms like we like to think things are pretty stable,
[32:11] but the reality is you're ready for it.
[32:13] Yeah. Yeah. I'm good, man. Anyhow, the reality is, you know, civilization's pretty fragile, you know. Yeah. Yeah.
[32:21] It could collapse pretty quick. I mean, and especially we're going into a t time now where our
[32:30] our uh technology we're so dependent on our technology and all it takes is one major solar
[32:38] flare Yeah.
[32:40] that could end up wiping it all out and we'd be back to little house on the prairie times. Right. Right.
[32:46] And most people just aren't ready for that.
[32:48] Most people don't know that. Most most people don't. and and think about 20 years from now once SpaceX has a chance to to put uh AI into the into orbit and
[32:58] to put um our internet connection into orbit.
[33:01] Oh yeah. And we'll have robots everywhere that are all talking to each other, you know, connected and learning from each other.
[33:07] Yeah. But but one one big CME with all of that metal orbiting the Earth out in space would just, you know, I mean, you're talking about a complete rebuild
[33:16] if if if that scenario happened. So yeah.
[33:18] Yeah, it's pretty interesting. It's a it's a fun time. So when you mentioned spiritual awakening in and the Templar and that's kind of the the the prior
[33:26] civilization was was probably there and then um I think as we talked about the last time I think I'm I'm remembering it
Chapter 6: Ancient Civilization
[33:33] and then uh you know cataclysm rebuild and and then we're and then you know the Templar sort of have the the keys to
[33:42] this to this knowledge of how to rebuild in a way that is a more kind of a I don't know a divine civilization I guess
[33:50] right? Yeah, it's more more in harmony but also more utilizing the natural forces of the earth itself. I mean we
[33:59] one of the things we we you're speaking my language with that part of it.
[34:02] Yeah. One of the things we discovered when we were in Egypt, in Jerusalem,
[34:10] we found all these arcs like the ark of the covenant and uh the they were basically electrostatic capacitors where they would build up.
[34:22] When you say when we were the you're talking about hundreds of years ago.
[34:26] Yeah. Yeah. Thousand years ago, you know, in the the early Well, the Yeah.
[34:30] the early 1100s, beginning of the 1200s, uh, when the Templar Order was doing
[34:37] research in Egypt and and Lebanon and Syria,
[34:43] uh, Jerusalem, areas of Palestine, Israel.
[34:50] Um, one of the things we discovered was these arcs.
[34:57] And, uh, it's interesting. They're they're always depicted in Egypt as being on boats
[35:06] uh because according to the Egyptian tradition uh they were said to have been brought
[35:14] over from a during the Zepte the first time uh from a place called Utlant
[35:24] and Utlant was was probably what Solon on uh uh Plato's great great great great
[35:33] grandfather uh when he said he learned of Atlantis from the Egyptian priests it was probably Utlant
[35:41] uh which was said to be this island uh that was very advanced um according to
[35:51] uh the Egyptian records the the needers the gods uh originally came from this island.
[35:59] Uh they started setting up Egypt actually as early as 20,000 years ago.
[36:07] Uh and it was and according to Egyptian records, there were different needers or gods that ruled Egypt
[36:16] itself for different periods of time as they were setting it all up. And then eventually they turned it over to the
[36:23] pharaohs. They turned it over to and and we don't know who these gods were, these gods, these needers. We don't know if
[36:32] they were just an advanced people or if they were there's some indication they may have been extraterrestrial.
[36:41] Um likely even from uh the constellations of Orion,
[36:51] Sirius and and and the plates. Those were kind of the three main constellations that are emphasized in Egypt.
[37:01] And uh it it is interesting most the major temples in Egypt
[37:10] uh if you if you go to the what's known as like the sanctum sancttorum or holy of holies of these temples some of which are closed to the public by the way.
[37:21] uh they're listed as Stargates and um and they seem to be aligned to
[37:28] these constellations and it and it may be that in antiquity
[37:36] and this is just speculation of course but it may be in in antiquity that that there were beings that came from these
[37:44] these star constellations set up a had an island somewhere where
[37:51] uh in the Atlantic, assuming in the Atlantic Ocean or or thereabouts.
[37:58] Um that uh where they were setting starting to set up civilization other places.
[38:08] Uh and then a cataclysm came and and and and wiped it out. And and so the
[38:15] Templars were trying to track down the origins of this and and one of the things that according to the Egyptian
[38:23] records that that were brought over on boats from that that these needers brought
[38:31] over were these arcs and and when you say ark Yeah. It's like arc of the covenant.
[38:37] Yeah. But uh that you find within the Jew within the uh uh Jewish tradition.
[38:43] Um uh and and it appears that these arcs were like uh like an electrostatic
[38:52] capacitor and and the Templar order acquired six of these
[38:58] uh from different temples primarily in Egypt but also in Jerusalem.
[39:05] We're aware of potentially four other ones. We think that probably in antiquity there were a bunch of these
[39:14] spread throughout the world in different places. Maybe put even put in
[39:21] uh there's kind of there's a world grid of electromagnetic lines of force that go around the planet that uh are called lay lines.
[39:31] Sure.
[39:32] Uh, and there's some speculation that maybe at the node points they had these arcs
[39:40] and they would they would have a, you know, an important monument of some kind built there and they would have these
[39:48] arcs and they would transmit basically electricity,
[39:56] you know, through these electromagnetic lines of force uh, with these capacitors. that were
[40:02] they would just build it up naturally from the earth energy. It was kind of like Tesla technology.
[40:11] Um and uh we think it was used to not only power things but
[40:18] but it would cause a breakdown of nitrogen in the soil which would help
[40:24] things to grow even even better. And uh you know it was kind of like free energy
[40:32] and uh we we hope so we have six of these arcs
[40:40] and and we're looking to reveal them very soon. Um uh and
[40:48] we we hope you know they'll be able to be tested and you know maybe this is a type of
[40:56] technology we'll be able to utilize again um defined very soon uh literally within the next year
[41:04] hopefully. Um there is some general
[41:12] uh more mundane aspects of of things we have to consider. Uh one of which is the
[41:21] the vault that they're buried in is I I I can reveal right now it it's on a
[41:30] it's on an Indian reservation. Uh there's that's uh there's an indigenous tribe that's been protecting it for us
[41:38] for uh really since the the 1300s.
[41:44] And uh it's it's in an area of Montana where it's well we have two vaults.
[41:54] One's in Montana, one's in Washington DC area.
[41:58] We're looking at opening the one in Montana.
[42:02] And it's uh it's uh actually when
[42:08] Jefferson sent Lewis and Clark to go check out the Louisiana Purchase, part of what they were investigating was this vault to make sure it was still there.
[42:19] Um Jefferson and uh and Lewis and Clark were all Templars. So it was that was
[42:26] part of the the mission and they of course Jefferson got the Louisiana purchase from Napoleon who was also a
[42:35] Templar and Napoleon's personal physician Bernard Raymon Fabre Palipat was the
[42:42] grandmaster of the Templar order at the time. So um so that's kind of how that
[42:49] all came to be. But uh but the the vault is there's only certain times a year
[42:56] where we can even dig there cuz the the dirt is so uh you know when when it's colder it's
[43:04] you you can't even dig there and we haven't dug it up in
[43:11] uh quite some time now. So give me an estimate. Yeah, we it's it's been, you know, it's it's it's probably
[43:19] been about 60 years since it was checked on. I mean, we know where it is.
[43:25] Um, and uh, but we need to do some testing first to find the exact I mean, we we know the general area where it is.
[43:34] We know within uh maybe you know
[43:43] 100 square yards the the area where it is. Um and uh but we do have to go in
[43:50] and do some testing to, you know, find the exact spot before we
[43:58] start digging cuz otherwise we're going to be digging all over the place like uh Oak
[44:05] Island, you know, and trying to find it and and uh uh but we're but you know,
[44:13] we're we're certain we're certain of the general area. So where did you get that information?
[44:18] That's something that's been passed down within the order. Mhm.
[44:22] And there are certain Templar monuments actually and this part of what we will be revealing. Uh Scott Walters been
[44:32] working on this in particular. Uh but there's um there's certain Templar
[44:40] monuments including the um including the uh Newport Tower, right?
[44:48] And the uh Kensington Runstone and others that Yeah, they're all aligned
[44:56] with this uh particular vault. Are are you saying that Scott is
[45:04] working on the vault or Scott is working on the um the the Well, he's been revealing the the the
[45:13] connection of how they're all aligned and everything, the sites, but but but is Scott also in on the vault? Does he
[45:20] He is Yeah, he he is on the vault. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
[45:23] Okay. So, well, that's pretty cool, man. That's pretty exciting. So, Matt, do you mind if I ask a question real quick? Let's do Sure.
[45:30] So, Tim, I've you know, Scott has talked about the vault. So of you, um, how large is this vault?
[45:37] Uh, it' be maybe uh a little bit bigger than the studio, we think. I mean, it's not it's not
[45:45] particularly huge, but it is filled with uh some pretty interesting things. At one point in time, according to our records, there were seven vaults.
[45:56] Um, we ended up, uh, when I say we, I mean the Templar order ended up, uh, reducing them down to two vaults.
[46:08] And, uh, well, we are aware of another vault that's in
[46:14] Istanbul right now. Um, there was another vault that was in Lebanon, but that's been cleared out already.
[46:25] Uh but we can the the one in Lebanon we can reveal to people if they want to you know I mean there's a there's a site
[46:33] that's actually called Hyram's tomb and it's said to be the the uh
[46:40] legend says it's the it's the tomb of Hyram of Ty from the Bible but it's actually not a tomb at all. It's a there
[46:49] it is. Uh so actually uh to the that's the side of it. If you were to if you
[46:56] were to go around to the to the right there to the other side of it, there's actually a and start digging. There's a
[47:05] there's actually a vault that's underneath that. And uh uh this that was just the landmarker for the for the uh
[47:14] for the vault itself. But what was what used to be in that vault has already been removed. Okay. There's nothing in there anymore.
[47:22] Like looted, you mean? Or moved by the Templar? Uh, it was moved by the Templars. Yeah.
[47:27] And then, uh, but there used to be a vault. One of the arcs was was stored in there
[47:34] actually at one point in time. Um, the other there is also a vault still in Istanbul.
[47:43] Uh, and uh, the Turkish antiquities is is aware of that vault.
[47:50] Um, and there's some things in there that, you know, we'll probably reveal at some
[47:57] point in time as well. But as far as here in the United States, there's just two vaults. And,
[48:06] um, there used to be seven. One used to be at Oak Island.
[48:11] uh used to be called Dog Island cuz it looked like a a dog from the air, the
[48:18] the island, but it uh um all that stuff's been cleared out.
[48:23] Benjamin Franklin was actually the one who ordered that to be cleared out in
[48:31] about 1765 and uh so that they could in preparation for the upcoming American Revolution
[48:38] that they're planning and uh they needed money for it. And so a
[48:45] lot of the that treasure went towards that that Revolutionary War. But we're still sitting on some really important things, including these arcs.
[48:57] Uh, also the um the bones of the Holy Family, which we we talked about before. Yeah, you revealed that on this show.
[49:04] That was a big bombshell, man. That's a big deal.
[49:07] Um, and you know, one of the things we talked I revealed on the show before was that some of these have elongated skulls.
[49:16] Yeah. So when you say the Holy Family, let's back up for a second and just, you know, articulate this one more time for the people who might have missed that first episode.
[49:25] Yeah. So the so one of the things that the order found in East Jerusalem again this is back in the 1200s
Chapter 7: Bones of the Holy Family
[49:34] was they discovered what's now known as the Talpiat tomb which uh had the oaries
[49:41] which were bone boxes of of Jesus, Mary Magdalene,
[49:49] John the Baptist and some of their children. And when I say their children,
[49:57] uh, Mary Magdalene was actually married to John the Baptist first and they had children.
[50:04] John the Baptist was kind of meant to be the Messiah type of figure.
[50:12] Um, but uh, he was killed early on. And so his cousin Jesus then married Mary
[50:20] Magdalene, which was a not an uncommon thing to do back then. Uh and then they had children.
[50:29] And uh so this was uh the family tomb that they had been all
[50:38] been brought back to. Uh we we the Templar order pulled the bones out of that tomb back in the 1200s.
[50:47] They left some of the boxes um the ouary boxes but kept the bones.
[50:54] And so we have these bones in one of the va in the vault
[51:02] Montana. in Montana. The the the hope is to when we be able to pull it out, there
[51:09] are, as I understand it, still some bone fragments that had been left in the oawaries. So, we'll be able to
[51:18] genetically test it to show that they they go back, they they tie in with those oawaries
[51:26] and uh you know, we'll be able to reveal that to the world. And and the idea of it isn't to
[51:34] You know, this may be offensive to some to the to their religion and it and we're not trying to invalidate anybody's faith.
[51:43] Uh we're just trying to point out there's a little more to what's going on, you know. Um, from a
[51:52] Templar perspective, uh, the order was created to not only
[52:02] search for these pre-oluvian artifacts and philosophies and and and such from
[52:09] the the time of Noah. Um, but originally that's what it was for.
[52:16] Later we we we learned of the Atlantis connection. But uh
[52:22] but um it was also to protect the the bloodline of Jesus and Mary Magdalene
[52:29] and Jesus and John the Baptist that that continued to exist.
[52:36] And the reason is not because uh
[52:43] the bloodline has some sort of magical qualities or anything like that, but because they're passing on a a
[52:51] tradition and a virgin a version of these earlier not only Judaism or not only
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Christianity but uh Judaism, a different perspective of it than largely what the establishments are teaching now.
[53:11] And uh one that was much more um uh about personal awakening.
[53:23] Um, and that and and an understanding that the myths and the rituals from
[53:30] antiquity were all designed to help people attain their own personal
[53:37] awakening as opposed to just have being a belief system where you if you believe this, you get into
[53:45] heaven. You know, I mean, uh, it wasn't quite that simple. It involved more personal responsibility
[53:54] and more personal awakening and and that's really what got you there. And uh
[54:03] and it it so it doesn't mean that the scriptures are wrong.
[54:08] It just means that there need to be interpreted a little differently, you know, from that perspective.
[54:14] Let's get into that in a second, but I want to back up maybe first. And so Montana, so and and a big reveal within a year is is the goal.
[54:24] Yeah.
[54:24] And a vault in Montana that contains the bones of the uh of Jesus, Mary, Joseph, and their combined children, right?
Chapter 8: Templar Vaults
[54:32] And um you haven't seen it because it was it's been 60 years since it was dug up last, right? So, what I mean, you're
[54:41] I've seen I've seen old photos from from uh the last time it was dug up.
[54:50] Okay.
[54:51] But, uh do those photos exist today?
[54:54] Uh they do. Yeah, they're they're in a private collection, but they're um but they're, you know, they seem
[55:03] pretty legit. And how confident are you? One to 100. Oh, I'm I'm I'm at about a 95% confidence
[55:12] and it's it's all that stuff. All that stuff's there. I mean, I I uh there's just too much that's been
[55:20] passed down, you know, related to it and and knowledge related to it that uh
[55:28] including uh the processes for for producing the
[55:34] mana that was found in the arcs. This white powder that was found in the arcs
[55:41] um was was produced alchemically and uh
[55:47] uh we actually our order produces that now or making that available in in
[55:54] limited capacity because it takes a bit to make. It's it's a superc conductive substance and it's uh it's basically a
[56:04] monatomic gold. It's gold in this monatomic state. And
[56:11] uh it it displays some very unusual properties to it and which we can test.
[56:17] And how deep underground is this bunker? it with it.
[56:23] It's not that far underground, but it's uh as I understand it, I mean, it's not like it's hundreds of feet down or
[56:32] anything. I mean, it's Do you need shovels or do you need heavy machinery?
[56:37] Uh I Well, that's part of why we need to do the testing. Yeah.
[56:43] You know, to to to determine the exact spot because we know the general spot. It's
[56:50] and it's cared for and protected by the by the tribe um that's been protecting it. But uh
[56:58] and the testing is done with G uh GPR or Yeah. Well, I'm I'm I'm also working with Fippo Bandi.
[57:06] Oh.
[57:07] Who's who's been doing the uh the SAR scans of Giza. Yeah.
[57:12] Uh and we're going to see if if that type of scanning will will work. Well, if he's telling the truth, it will work, right?
[57:21] And if he's not, then it won't.
[57:23] Exactly. Yeah. So, we I kind of We're going to we're going to try that first and see
[57:29] what it does. Yeah. Um because otherwise, I mean, we can get, you know, ground penetrating radar equipment up there.
[57:39] His paper was retracted and essentially scientifically debunked by the um by the by the uh publisher.
[57:47] Yeah. So, I I um Yeah, we'll see.
[57:50] Yeah, I talked to him. I went into that thing completely open-minded and sure, you know, just uh Yeah, that's a tough That's a tough one.
[57:58] It's a tough one. I mean, we'll see.
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Supposedly, you know, he's done scam.
[58:03] It's not any tougher than Jesus's bones, but Right. Right. Right. It's true.
[58:07] That's a big That's a big claim, man. I mean, it's a big claim. Yeah. Um and uh
[58:15] and not only that but but you from my understanding these bones particularly
[58:21] the the skulls are uh somewhat elongated right which ones uh for both for all three of uh John the
[58:31] Baptist Jesus and Mary Magdalene.
[58:35] Okay. Uh I should say that that lineage
[58:43] according to tradition and we could get into it if you want but it's said to go back to the pharaoh Aenatan
[58:51] right uh and Nefertiti both of whom also were said to have these elongated skulls
[59:01] uh according to our records or our research church.
[59:07] Uh Nefertitta may have actually been a Mayan princess.
[59:12] uh and she was brought over to Egypt and uh
[59:19] um there so Aknatan's grandfather well his great greatg grandmother
[59:29] which would have been hotepsuit she had she had done an a a series of
[59:38] explorations she was trying to find the land of pun um which we now think might have been
[59:45] Australia. And so she had she had traveled had sent boats out as far as Australia where they brought back
[59:54] information. and then her son Tut Moses III who was Aknatan's grandfather.
[1:00:02] He had sent, according to our records, uh he had sent ships out
[1:00:11] the opposite direction towards um the Americas.
[1:00:18] And he had actually encountered uh he met with the Mayans. In fact, at Elephantine Island,
[1:00:27] um, which was on the Nile, which was kind of like a it's one of the earliest sites of Egypt,
[1:00:34] but it's also became ended up becoming almost like a museum for the Egyptians where they're bringing things back. And
[1:00:43] so they found like boomerangs and stuff there, which would have come from Australia. But there's also there's a
[1:00:51] temple of Tut Moses III that depicts uh Mayans meeting with Egyptians.
[1:01:01] Um and uh which is closed to the public most of the time. Uh, and they also
[1:01:08] think there's there's an arc there on the island that the German scientists have been trying been for the last 60
[1:01:16] years have been digging trying to get to it. Something on the island is
[1:01:24] well something on the island looks like a bomb went off on the island. First of all, whatever. There's
[1:01:32] a huge amount of energy that caused
[1:01:37] uh temples literally to blow up and uh and it's causing this the granite on the
[1:01:47] island to turn into slate which normally takes place over thousands of years and but there's some
[1:01:54] sort of energy that's speeding it up there and they think it's one of these arcs.
[1:02:01] Um uh so anyhow that's going on on the island but but the fact that Toutmos was
[1:02:09] III may have been traveling to the Yucatan.
[1:02:13] Uh it's thought it's believed Nefertiti was actually brought over.
[1:02:19] Um, actually the the headdress that Nefertiti wears is is a is not a traditional Egyptian headdress, but it
[1:02:28] is a traditional Mayan headdress that they have all kinds of statues of that exact
[1:02:35] same headdress, which is kind of interesting.
[1:02:40] Uh but um and recently just within the
[1:02:46] last couple years at Tulum they've discovered a bunch of elongated skulls.
[1:02:54] And where's Tulum again?
[1:02:56] Tulum is uh it's it's in the Yucatan of Mexico. It's it's it's
[1:03:04] kind of below couple hours below Cancun.
[1:03:09] um you know which is kind of near the Gulf a little bit of and it's uh
[1:03:18] it's just kind of you have Cancun Pa del Carman and then Tulum as you go further south and they're all a couple hours
[1:03:27] apart from each other and then uh Chichinita is kind of in that region too.
[1:03:32] Right. Right. but uh as well as a number of other great sites. But um but at Tulum they've discovered some
[1:03:41] elongated skulls not unlike the ones that they've discovered uh the paraca skulls that they've discovered in Peru.
[1:03:52] Right.
[1:03:52] So and the difference between um and and you're saying that these elongated skulls are not um elongated. They're not headbinding.
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They're not from binding. They're right. They're actually genetically this way. And so it's like a genetic marker.
[1:04:06] And how how do you how do you tell the difference?
[1:04:09] Uh part of it has to do with the the stitching in the uh you know the the the human
[1:04:17] skull has uh is composed of like different parts and and part of it is just to get us
[1:04:26] through the birth canal. you know, there's this this uh stitching, I get I don't know what what you call it, but
[1:04:34] it's suture down the middle. Yeah. Down the center and in and the sides.
[1:04:39] I don't know what you call but it's it doesn't have that in in part of it, you know. So, it's genetically different
[1:04:47] and uh shap shaped different and it's shaped differently. It's a little bit and it's longer.
[1:04:53] the mass is actually bigger as well. And uh
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we you know we don't we don't uh as far as Aknatan and Nefertiti go we don't have their mummies.
[1:05:11] So we don't when when Aknatan was deposed because he was preaching a form of monotheism.
[1:05:22] He had changed the Egyptian religion to to form a monotheism as opposed to uh you know a pantheon of
[1:05:30] gods. He he he he he made it all he's basically said look the gods are your cousins
[1:05:38] and uh your distant cousins and the uh and there's only one god called the aten or
[1:05:47] the atani and uh he got deposed by the ammon priesthood because he had up you know he
[1:05:57] he had completely changed everything he moved the capital. He changed the religion.
[1:06:04] Uh and it was good for a little while till the the Ammon priesthood rose up again and deposed him. And when they
[1:06:11] deposed him, uh they erased any mention of him. They tried to just erase
[1:06:20] him from history. And and so his body hasn't been found either. And same with
[1:06:27] Nefertiti. But in the artwork, they're depicted with these elongated
[1:06:33] skulls. And um and
[1:06:40] so Tutmo well so Aknatan had a brother who was raised in the court named Tutmos,
[1:06:48] named after Aatan's, you know, greatgrandfather, Tutmos III.
[1:06:54] So there's two Moses third to Moses I 4th and uh these were relatives of
[1:07:01] Akenatan but you know he um so his brother this biological
[1:07:09] brother who was raised in the court was named Tut Moses and when Aknatan was deposed his brother
[1:07:16] Tut Moses ended up taking the followers out of Egypt and the The at the aten also known as
[1:07:26] the atoni became Adoni in Hebrew which just means lord and tutosis was Moses.
[1:07:36] So this was really the origin of Moses and there was a whole family lineage there that went into Palestine went into uh area of Lebanon.
[1:07:50] Uh they they they uh they were the Phoenicians in Lebanon were
[1:07:59] kind of like the cousins of the Egyptians.
[1:08:03] And so Tut Moses went up into uh Lebanon area and they became the Canaanites.
[1:08:13] And uh it's suspected that Jesus and Mary Magdalene
[1:08:21] were actually of this Canaanite tradition.
[1:08:27] Uh and really that's what the wedding of Kaa was about was their wedding. Uh hence why it was called the wedding of Kaa.
[1:08:38] And and this is why uh Mary the the mother ordered Jesus to get more wine cuz she was the host of
[1:08:46] the wedding. And so this is where he does his miracle of turning water into wine. But um
[1:08:54] it was it was believed that it was all the same genetic tradition.
[1:09:03] And so that's probably why they had these elongated heads. And we'll we'll be able to validate that, you know, once we open this vault.
[1:09:12] And the pictures that you've seen from within the vault, like maybe just a little more detail on that. How from So these they were in a private collection
[1:09:21] and you were able to view them roughly how many pictures did you see and what what were you seeing on the pictures as you're looking at them?
[1:09:28] Uh it's just a few, but there was uh there were the arcs and these arcs were they look similar to the ark of the
[1:09:35] covenant. Some of them were actually silver arcs as opposed to gold. Um, as I
[1:09:43] understand it. Uh, but most of them were gold. Um, how many total did you see?
[1:09:51] Uh, there were six. Yeah.
[1:09:54] And, uh, um, and they were also depicted on boats, not unlike the Egyptian because I
[1:10:02] think that's where, well, I'm sure that's where they got it from. In fact, we know they got they got these particular arcs from the temples in Egypt.
[1:10:12] But you're looking at a picture of the of the ark in the vault there. No boat in the in the picture, right?
[1:10:19] Well, no. It's it's like a it's like a symbolic boat underneath the ark.
[1:10:24] Okay. Because the Egyptians, they they depicted the the arcs on boats, not only in their temple walls, but
[1:10:32] there's actually reproductions of them that you can find at, for example, the temple of Horus at
[1:10:41] Edfu in the Sanctum Sanctum. They have a reproduction of
[1:10:48] one of these arcs that is is also on a boat. Um, the Egyptians depicted the
[1:10:56] needers as coming over on boats or the gods to set up Egypt, but they also depicted these arcs being brought over
[1:11:05] on boats. And it it may be it actually may be part of the reason why both Noah's ark was called an ark
[1:11:15] and the ark of the covenant was called an ark cuz they were the ark of the covenant was actually brought over on one of these boats.
[1:11:25] Does Scott Walter see the photos too or anybody else?
[1:11:27] No, no, no, no, no, no. These were these were unfortunately I don't I don't have them in my possession anymore. They but
[1:11:36] they used to be I I saw them from the grand commander before me who had them
[1:11:42] and uh and we had a when we moved all the our
[1:11:50] headquarters used to be in Indiana and we moved them from Indiana to Colorado
[1:11:57] and somewhere in the move uh unfortunately these photos have gotten lost and I don't So, they they
[1:12:06] may still be around in a file cabinet somewhere, but I haven't been able to refine them again. The last time I saw
[1:12:13] them was when we were still in Indiana, so Okay.
[1:12:17] Um, thank you for the detail. Appreciate.
[1:12:20] Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But there but there's a uh um
[1:12:27] Yeah, from what we can tell there there were there are six arcs.
[1:12:32] There's these bones and then there's a whole lot of other just artifacts.
[1:12:39] So, the bones aren't in the ouaries anymore, which is the the bone box. So, what what are what are they kept in in
[1:12:47] the vault right now? They're not just That's a good question. I don't know.
[1:12:51] I don't know that. I don't know. Um we'll we will find out.
[1:12:57] And is it like a full skeleton or is it U Yeah, it's my understanding. Yeah, it's full skeleton. Yeah. Um,
[1:13:04] used to be they used to they used to put all the bones in the box and then they'd put the skull and and the the two
[1:13:12] femurss, you know, on the top and that's really where the skull and crossbone symbol comes from. Mhm.
[1:13:19] Um which was later on pirate flags and but it was also a
[1:13:27] if you look at the um one of the monograms for Christ is is the kai row
[1:13:35] and the kai looks like a like an X and the row looks like a
[1:13:42] almost like a P. You know, the Greek row almost looks like a P with a the X over
[1:13:50] it. That's where you get Cairo for Christ, but that's also looks like the skull and crossbones.
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And uh from a Templar perspective, when whenever a Templar
[1:14:09] served in the Holy Land, according to traditional heraldry, they would their their effigy
[1:14:18] uh on their on their tomb would be uh depicted with their legs crossed
[1:14:25] and that that means they served in the Holy Land. That was one of those symbolism of medieval heraldry.
[1:14:33] And so by crossing the femurss, that was also kind of a a symbol for having come from the Holy Land.
[1:14:43] And and I don't I don't know what the origins of that is, but that's just that's just something that has has
[1:14:52] always been there. It's always been used. So So why why wait? Why wait a year? Why not just get in there with some shovels or rent a John Deere?
[1:15:02] Yeah, sure. Sure. I mean, I'm I'm excited. Believe me, I wanna I wanna I want to dig it up right now. But but we
[1:15:10] want to get a couple things set up. And first, we first of all, we want to prepare the public for it. So, like podcasts like this, this is great
[1:15:18] because we can start to kind of prepare people for it. We can talk about it. We could talk about the significance of of of
[1:15:27] what's in there, what that may mean from an interpretation um in in terms of looking at biblical
[1:15:36] texts. I mean for example of course Christianity is large largely
[1:15:43] based around this idea of Jesus resurrecting
[1:15:50] from the grave you know and uh full body bones and all full bone but you're right bodily resurrection
[1:15:58] y um but the word that's usually translated as resurrection is the Greek
[1:16:05] word anastasis Anastasis is the opposite of stasis. Stasis means to sleep.
[1:16:14] Anastasis just means to wake up. So anytime the modern English Bible is
[1:16:21] saying Jesus resurrected, it's coming from the Greek word in the original Greek text, anastasis, which just means to wake up.
[1:16:33] From a Templar perspective, it had nothing to do with bodily resurrection. It had to do with his
[1:16:42] personal wake up to nosis or to divine knowledge, you know. So, it's a very different interpretation and and helping people
[1:16:51] understand that can maybe help that transition a little bit better, you know, as we reveal the
[1:16:59] bones because we believe that the early Christians
[1:17:05] uh actually believed in reincarnation and so to be born again literally meant
[1:17:13] to be born again. It wasn't it wasn't just you know it was it was it was a totally different interpretation than
[1:17:21] how the churches propagate it today. So to us it's not a contradiction at all. If Jesus were to
[1:17:29] come back in a new form, you know, he'd probably just be reincarnated.
[1:17:35] Uh because that's uh what is suggested.
[1:17:40] It's even suggested in the New Testament. There's passages suggesting it. I mean, when the disciples go to
[1:17:50] Jesus, they say, "Jesus, the the prophet, we we've heard the prophet Elijah's come back or Elias in the
[1:17:58] Greek." Uh, and Jesus says, "Well, he has come back, but in a form that most people don't recognize yet." And it
[1:18:05] says, "Then the disciples understood he was talking about John the Baptist." Well, we know who John the Baptist's
[1:18:13] parents were. So, if Elias or Elijah's come back as John the Baptist,
[1:18:20] the only way he could do that is if he was reincarnating. Right? So, these are
[1:18:27] these are ideas that are not um widespread
[1:18:33] within modern Christianity. And so, um, you know, but revealing these bones
[1:18:40] then isn't a contradiction to that. It it's it's it's just a different interpretation of the same scripture.
[1:18:49] And so, we kind of want to prepare people for that for one. Secondly, we've been waiting till a time where we had
[1:18:58] technology where we could reveal all this instantly around the world,
[1:19:05] which is now possible. Um, it was not possible prior to this because we didn't
[1:19:11] have the technology to do that. Uh, so we want everything to be open and transparent.
[1:19:18] Uh, so they can see the site, they could see us digging it up, people can see what's in the vault as we see it.
[1:19:30] Um, and the other thing we want to do is we the technologies what? Just live stream, I guess, right?
[1:19:39] Live stream. Yeah, exactly. And and then the other thing that we're trying to get lined up is we're either going to need
[1:19:48] to rely on a third party because we don't we don't believe we own these artifacts.
[1:19:58] We've just been protecting them and they belong to the whole world.
[1:20:04] And uh so we either need a third party like something like the United Nations that can then take these things and
[1:20:12] protect them and create a museum for them.
[1:20:16] Or we need to divide them up uh with and give them to to different
[1:20:23] countries to you know each get a different part of it to to preserve and protect.
[1:20:33] Um, what we don't want is any just one country trying to claim them for
[1:20:42] themselves. I mean, they don't belong to Egypt. They don't belong to Israel. They don't belong to the United States. They
[1:20:50] don't belong to Spain. They don't belong to, you know, I mean, they don't belong to any one country.
[1:20:58] Uh, they belong to all people. So, you know, so that's part of what we're getting straightened out right now in
[1:21:06] terms of what we do with them once we once we reveal them.
[1:21:10] Um, but the hope is that they can be utilized and the the bones can be studied. They can be authenticated back to the oaries.
[1:21:21] Yeah. And then the arcs can also be studied and potentially
[1:21:28] you know maybe even recreated you know for right uh for future
[1:21:36] power sources right because any idea if they're functional today dogs uh I don't I that I don't know I'm I'm
[1:21:45] assuming I'm assuming if they're not they can easily be
[1:21:52] evaluated and studied and and recreated.
[1:21:57] Is there like a radiation danger with these arcs? There is uh potentially uh you know the one of the arks is believed
[1:22:05] to be in Ethiopia right now. And uh
[1:22:13] you know the the the the priests who guard it and and who take care of it um
[1:22:22] suffer they seem to suffer some pretty extreme. It's like blindness, right?
[1:22:29] Yeah. they get cataracts, uh, you know, severe cataracts and and have some other health problems, I
[1:22:37] think, from it. So, and I don't know if that's just from the energy that that's emanating from it, and I don't know if that's radiation or
[1:22:45] not. I mean, we do know that there's these monatomic elements, this mana that
[1:22:55] that goes in the ark, which which which helps to amplify
[1:23:02] the energy from the the static capacitor itself.
[1:23:07] And uh the monotomics are fine on their own. They actually help heal the body of all kinds of things. But if they're put
[1:23:16] in a power source like an arc where where that energy is amplified, it
[1:23:23] may have other effects that we're not aware of at this time.
[1:23:26] So, how do you prove that the bones date to uh Jesus's time and that they actually are of that family's?
[1:23:34] Yeah. So, we'll be able to carbonate them first of all. So, so that'll carbonate them, but then we can also
[1:23:40] genetically show as as I understand it, there are still fragments that were found in the ouaries
[1:23:48] themselves from the Talpiat tomb, which has since been rediscovered.
[1:23:53] Uh, you know, the Talpiat tomb was rediscovered in the '9s. They discovered the the boxes.
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Uh, and as I understand it, there's some little fragments that are in there. So if we can we can show that the bones we
[1:24:07] have genetically tie to those those fragments that are that were in the oso areas from the
[1:24:15] talpiate tomb. We can show that these bones came from the Talpiat tomb and uh
[1:24:23] that these I mean the odds of
[1:24:31] uh a family of people with these same names as what we find in the Bible are pretty
[1:24:39] uh you know pretty pretty rare. I mean, there's there's some people who I you know, I understand you had Timothy Freak
[1:24:48] yesterday yesterday on your show. I mean, he he he's uh fantastic researcher, amazing.
[1:24:56] Uh I I I can't praise him enough in terms of uh he's one of my favorite authors, but he
[1:25:03] you know he he wrote a book uh Jesus mysteries with Peter Gandandy basically saying uh
[1:25:11] you know the the whole Jesus story was just a myth and that he probably didn't even exist.
[1:25:17] He didn't even exist. Yeah, that's that's his theory. And uh I would agree with them except for the fact that we
[1:25:24] have these these bone fragments, you know what I mean? Yeah.
[1:25:28] So otherwise, but I do think there's a lot of a lot of stories that were grafted on to
[1:25:36] Jesus um and grafted onto John the Baptist as well. I mean, I think there was
[1:25:43] alchemical allegory that was grafted onto their story. I think there was Pythagorean
[1:25:51] ideas and knowledge that were grafted onto their story.
[1:25:55] Um I think uh there was early uh for example the early myths of the
[1:26:03] god Oannis who who was said to dawn fish skins and baptize priest kings after the flood
[1:26:13] uh after the cataclysm and to help rebuild civilization.
[1:26:19] I think that story was grafted onto John the Baptist to a certain degree and that's why John the Baptist was said to
[1:26:27] wear animal skins and baptized priests kings.
[1:26:32] Uh John John in Greek is Ianis
[1:26:39] and his feast day uh June 23rd in the ancient world was the feast day of Awanis.
[1:26:48] So you have Owanis and Ianis both having the same feast day
[1:26:55] both baptizing priest kings both you know wearing the animal skins you know it's it's uh it's like one
[1:27:04] story gra was was grafted onto the other you know and I think there's a lot of that
[1:27:11] in the in uh the Bible which doesn't mean there's not value to it. It just
[1:27:18] means that we have to look a little deeper at it than just surface interpretation.
[1:27:26] So maybe one of the last questions on on this topic is just you know the and and it just gets back to the to the why wait
[1:27:34] kind of question and I think you're going to have to use just like GPR attached to a drone or something and just fly it over the area and just
[1:27:41] you you'll find where it is and then be able to dig from there.
[1:27:44] Yeah. I mean we know the general area so it's Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but but getting the world ready and you know the last time you were on the show was two years
[1:27:52] ago and I think what you said was we're maybe five years or so until you felt like it and now we're two years later and we're one year. So that's progress.
[1:28:01] We're getting closer. You know it's very close. Maybe it'll be three instead of five.
[1:28:05] But um uh you know the the world is I mean the world's never going to be ready for that, right? Sure. I mean, if
[1:28:13] the world is ready for UAP and UFO and the government's telling us that they're real now, I mean, I you you would think
[1:28:20] people are going to be ready to see some bones and some arcs, you know?
[1:28:24] You think so? Well, and and at the end of the day, people are going to believe what they want to believe. It doesn't matter what you show them. So,
[1:28:31] so what has to happen between now and the time that you put a shovel into the ground to say the world's ready?
[1:28:38] Part of it is also we we want to work with the tribes. the tribal nations here and set up because we want them to be
[1:28:46] part of that process as well. I mean they they helped to guard it, they helped to protect it and they sacrificed
[1:28:53] a lot in order to do that and so their history is part of this. So we want to or we you know we really want to
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create an event out of it and uh you know where they're they're a part of that that process
[1:29:09] um of revealing and uh um so that's part of it. Part of it is too
[1:29:18] that we think there may be a UAP connection with some of this.
[1:29:23] I mean the one of the things that the Templar order has has been passing down
[1:29:32] uh from really from the beginning was you know this belief this understanding
[1:29:40] that there were UAPs to begin with. I mean, we have uh and actually I uh I
[1:29:47] think I I I I got some pictures for you of some Templar documents and paintings
[1:29:54] from the late 1500s uh out of Germany. So, there was a and this is a this is a first reveal, right?
[1:30:02] First reveal. Yeah. Yeah. So the Templar order when it survived in the ger the area of
[1:30:11] Germany particularly in in the area of Chubigan uh the the Vutenberg region of Germany.
[1:30:22] Uh the Templar Order survived and it and it and it it just it changed its name to
[1:30:30] the Militia Crucifera Evangelica and it created a it even published a
[1:30:36] document in 1598 known as the Naometria dedicated to the militia cruciferia Evangelica.
[1:30:45] Frederick the Duke of Wutenberg was the Grandmaster at the time.
[1:30:50] Queen Elizabeth I was also a member of the order at that time uh as well as um
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her son who was hidden at birth Francis Bacon uh her head of her secret service John D
[1:31:11] who uh was also her court astrologer his cipher number was 007 actually and
[1:31:18] that's where James Bond 007 comes from. And it it had to do with him looking out for her with the two
[1:31:26] eyes and the the hand. And so that's where the 007 comes from.
[1:31:32] But um uh but so there's this underground this
[1:31:39] Templar body, the the Mosia Christopher Evangelica. Other members of it was
[1:31:45] included Johan Valentine Andrea who wrote one of the first early Rosaian manifestos and this is really where
[1:31:54] Rosacruianism came out of but we have these this painting that's uh in
[1:32:04] the region and uh still exists. It's actually hidden behind another painting in a in a church uh an old Templar church in the region.
[1:32:16] It's now become a Lutheran church, but uh it um but it shows these flying discs
[1:32:25] in the sky. So um and it and it uh and we have we've never showed this
[1:32:33] before anywhere. So you know this is something we can show here. Let's do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's take a look.
[1:32:39] Yeah. So, here on the on the on the left is is an old document showing one of these flying discs. And they they show them with an angel.
[1:32:49] Wow.
[1:32:50] Uh you can see there's there's some stuff going on there. And where did this come from?
[1:32:58] Uh Germany. Yeah.
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Yeah. But it's Templar Archives. It was some of our Templar archives in in Ger Germany, the region in Germany. And then
[1:33:08] and then the other is is a detail from a it's actually a painting of Solomon's temple. So you can kind of see here on
[1:33:17] the on on the left there's this is part of the detail. And if you look up kind of in the upper right hand corner there,
[1:33:26] you can see this flying disc with the angel. And then on the right here, I zoomed in on it so you could Uhhuh.
[1:33:34] so you could see it. But this is this is something that um the order's been
[1:33:41] uh pursuing and looking at for for centuries now. I mean, uh, even Francis Bacon in his, uh, book, The New
[1:33:50] Atlantis, which was kind of an outline for the technologies that we needed to develop
[1:33:58] in order to get back to what we believe Atlantis had.
[1:34:05] Uh, in the story itself, it talks about a an island that the world doesn't know about,
[1:34:13] but there's a there's a group known as the College of Solomon that that resides there. And the head of the College of
[1:34:20] Solomon wears a turban with a red Templar cross on it. And there's a shipwreck that that that lands on the
[1:34:29] island. And uh the the captain of the ship meets the head of the college of
[1:34:35] Solomon and he discovers they have all these technologies and and he says,
[1:34:42] "Where'd you get all this from?" And the head of the College of Solomon says, "Well, it's like this. We we've been
[1:34:50] we've been existing on this island. We know of the whole world, but the world doesn't know about us.
[1:34:56] Uh, one day we saw this light in the sky hovering over the ocean. So, we sailed
[1:35:03] our boats out to it. It was in a it was in the form of like an equal armed cross,
[1:35:10] but it was uh it was it was hovering over the ocean and and there was a force field that wouldn't let us get close.
[1:35:19] you know, it only let us get so close to it and then it shot this book out to us
[1:35:27] and it was a manual on how to create all this stuff. So, we've been we've been trying to create all this stuff ever since.
[1:35:36] And uh I mean that's a this that's an encounter with a UAP and and Francis Bacon is
[1:35:44] writing about that in in the you know in the early uh 1500s
[1:35:52] and um and so and then of course shortly thereafter we're also uh have artwork
[1:36:01] depicting this this type of thing. um which was all in the Templar
[1:36:09] tradition and uh again it it's believed
[1:36:16] also within the Templar tradition there's a uh there's a text that we we attained from
[1:36:25] Ethiopia uh the Coptic church our association with the Coptic church in in Ethiopia they had a this text known as the Kebra Nagast.
[1:36:36] And in the text, it talked about King Solomon's flying ship and how he used to fly to go see the Queen of Sheba in Ethiopia.
[1:36:48] Well, the word Sheba comes from the Egyptian word sabah, which means Stargate.
[1:36:56] So when King Solomon with his flying ship that was powered using mana
[1:37:04] uh would would fly to go visit the Queen of Sheba. She was going to visit the Queen of the Stargate.
[1:37:12] Now what that means, I mean the implications are pretty
[1:37:19] suggestive and we think it ties in directly with a lot of the UAP activity today obviously
[1:37:27] I mean with the flying discs and everything else. So it's something that order's been studying for a long time.
[1:37:34] We think that the mana uh what's referred to as mana in the Bible is actually a power source not
[1:37:43] only for these arcs but they were a power source for the UAPs.
[1:37:50] Um and and it's for this reason why in the ancient world like in the ancient Indian texts they
[1:37:59] talk about flying craft as well but these flying craft were known as vimmanas right
[1:38:07] and in the ancient Samrian texts they talked about flying crafts that were uh they were known as shem.
[1:38:16] They were the shem of the Anunnakis. So they were known as she manas.
[1:38:23] In both of these instances we find the word mana.
[1:38:29] Uh also in the like in the rapidoui uh the cultures of Easter Island
[1:38:37] uh they were said to have moved the giant Moi using a force that they referred to as mana.
[1:38:47] So we have mana, mana, vimmana, shimana.
[1:38:54] Um, and in the I haven't heard that about the Easter about moving them. Where where would that where did that come from? That
[1:39:02] comes from the the the the legends of the Polynesian traditions there themselves, like word of mouth passed down or Yeah. They said that they used them they
[1:39:10] they would use this mana and they would it would cause the the the
[1:39:18] giant mo statues to like walk into place.
[1:39:24] Um, now what's interesting is a few years ago, National Geographic tried to do a
[1:39:31] a documentary where they think they were able to use ropes to like move one of these things, but actually the Moai statue that they
[1:39:41] used in that experiment was actually only about a third of the size of the actual Moai statues. Yeah. Here you go.
[1:39:51] So, you see that little thing? Uh, well, that's basically just the head of the statues. They've
[1:39:58] they've since dug down and found they had these gi they have these bodies, too. So, what's popping up above the
[1:40:06] ground is about that size, but but the actual full size of them are about three times that height, right?
[1:40:14] So, I I I don't think they would have been able to do that with the ropes.
[1:40:19] Um, but that was the idea behind uh how they they moved it for the smaller size, but that was of course before they
[1:40:28] discovered that they had giant bodies to them. So, um I think you could move any I don't know
[1:40:36] if you find that point that point that it balances on without gravity. I don't think it matters how big it is honestly.
[1:40:44] Like yeah, maybe not. I mean I I don't know.
[1:40:46] Oh, I just know if it's three times that size. I mean Oh, those guys were doing it with that. Yeah. Yeah.
[1:40:52] Yeah. With it with that little, you know, that smaller size, but if you were to again, you're you were to if it was
[1:41:01] three times that height, I I don't know if you could do it with ropes or not.
[1:41:05] Who was that guy that was moving all those massive his first and last name both start with the same letter? Uh, Le
[1:41:13] lead Lead Skin in Coral Castle or No, I know him, but this other guy, Marty Montgomery or something.
[1:41:20] Yeah. Yeah, sure. Sure. Yeah, he with he was finding the pivot points.
[1:41:24] Yes, that Yeah, I that name is definitely not right. But, but Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, but he was moving.
[1:41:30] Yeah, there's something to that, you know. I mean, you can you can Wally Wallington.
[1:41:34] There you go. Wally. Thank you. Yeah, the M was just flipped upside down. Yeah.
[1:41:38] Yeah, there's something to that. I've moved some giant uh stones in my own yard.
[1:41:45] Uh you know, using that like a pivot point type of thing and spinning them.
[1:41:49] Uh and uh uh you know, people were how would you move that? You know, it wasn't wasn't
[1:41:58] levitating. It was just you getting the right pivot point for it to spin on. It's ingenious either way.
[1:42:03] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's something I mean there's something to that I think.
[1:42:09] And I think a lot of uh well like I think a lot of the monuments in um
[1:42:17] uh like England for and Wales and and these like places like Stonehenge.
[1:42:25] I think they were built originally what they do is they create a mound and then they dig holes in the mound.
[1:42:34] They they pull the stones up there and put them in the holes.
[1:42:39] Then they put the lentil across the top and then they just pull the dirt away, right?
[1:42:45] You know what I mean? And that would and then then that's how that came to be. I mean, that's that's certainly how the
[1:42:52] cathedrals were made with the with the with the flying buttresses.
[1:42:57] uh they had they had dirt in there, you know, to help hold it up and then they just clear the dirt out and and uh you
[1:43:05] know it appear like some sort of miracle, you know. I mean it was a people are smart similar similar type of process but
[1:43:14] sometimes there is some indication of um some form of levitation being used in antiquity.
[1:43:23] the Egyptian temple walls actually show it um show depictions of uh
[1:43:32] levitating temples um and uh one of the things that's really
[1:43:40] interesting with the mana this this alchemical substance this mana this uh
[1:43:47] really what it is is it's platinum metals in a monatomic state, it seems to tap into a higher
[1:43:56] dimensional state. So even when you're making it, there's this part where you take gold,
[1:44:03] for example. Yeah. In the stories, it talks about how Moses burned the golden calf into this powder that he sprinkled
[1:44:12] onto the onto water that he then fed to the wandering Hebrews. This is when he came
[1:44:20] down from the mountain and everyone was worshiping this golden calf and he so he you know he he did this alchemical
[1:44:29] process to it. Well, when you do this, we know how to do this um this
[1:44:36] alchemical process the Templar order does.
[1:44:40] Uh you basically take gold and you turn it into a gold chloride and then you do this special process to it.
[1:44:51] And at first the gold chloride appears to disappear.
[1:44:57] like it literally just appears to disappear.
[1:45:03] And and when it does this, we think what's happening is it's going into like a higher dimensional state.
[1:45:11] And it's a little scary because you you know, you you had $1,000 worth of gold that just disappears.
[1:45:20] Uh but then we do this process to bring it back. And when we bring it back, it comes back as this white powder.
[1:45:29] And what this white powder is is it's actually gold in a monatomic state. So every atom of gold.
[1:45:40] Normally gold forms compounds where the atoms all bind with each other. But in this instance it's like it goes to the
[1:45:47] state and when it comes back uh the atoms uh the two
[1:45:57] uh outer electrons and the outer veence ring of the atoms they they enter in what's called a Cooper pair and so they
[1:46:05] go into a high spin state and when they do that they become completely captured by the nucleus
[1:46:12] and they no longer bind with other atoms and so they refract light and they just
[1:46:19] appear as this white powder. This really fine fine white powder.
[1:46:23] This sounds like a drug deal. People give you gold and then you give them white powder.
[1:46:27] Yeah, it definitely what I do when I do lectures on on on the alchemical
[1:46:35] process, I I show them like I it ends up turning out this white powder and I always say and then you have cocaine.
[1:46:43] But no, you don't really have cocaine.
[1:46:45] It's it's a it's gold. It's it's definitely gold.
[1:46:48] It's just in a white powder. But what's interesting is when you have a container filled with this white powder and you
[1:46:56] have the same container filled with nothing the and you subject it to a weak electrostatic or electromagnetic field
[1:47:05] the container filled with the powder will weigh less than the same container filled with nothing.
[1:47:14] So it seems to be there seems to be a weight displacement and uh almost like a levitation quality to it.
[1:47:24] And we think what's happening is that that weight displacement is going into the higher dimension that we pulled the powder from itself.
[1:47:36] And if that's the case and if the UAPs are us utilizing that to
[1:47:44] to to be able to travel, that's why it appears that they're not operating according to
[1:47:51] our dimensional um laws of physics, but
[1:47:58] uh seem to be operating partially from a higher dimension.
[1:48:03] And that's why they don't They're they they can go in speeds that we can't figure out and they can they
[1:48:13] just don't behave the same way of of what you would expect from our four dimensions of spaceime. So, um, we
[1:48:22] think it's because they're and we think that's also why, uh, they're seen so much in the ocean
[1:48:32] because what happens is these these monatomics are also produced
[1:48:39] deep down in the the core of the earth where the pressure uh, helps to form them. and they're
[1:48:46] pushed out volcanically and they get pushed out into the vents of the ocean and they just deposited on the ocean
[1:48:54] floor. So, it's easy for them to collect it down there and uh
[1:49:02] and utilize it for their their craft, whoever they are. Um, is this something that you've talked about on Gaia? You you you went on Gaia.
[1:49:12] You like how much I've alluded a little bit to some of this, but how much have you talked about like alchemy wise, UAP wise, Jesus bones, the
[1:49:20] the uh not not a whole lot.
[1:49:22] The arcs a little a little bit. I'm revealing more now actually than I have on pretty much any other program, but it's
[1:49:32] um Well, thank you. Yeah, I mean, uh, well, I really I really love your show and and I and I I tried to reveal a little more
[1:49:41] last time I was on, so this is kind of a extension of that, so
[1:49:47] to speak. And and it's also why it's also why we think it's time to reveal the arcs.
[1:49:57] Part of the reason is the UAPs are showing up a lot more now and our government is
[1:50:05] being a lot more transparent about it and they seem to tie in. It all seems to tie in together
[1:50:12] and uh it's something you wouldn't expect at first, but we think there's a lot more tie in
[1:50:20] between the elongated skulls, the what we think Atlantis was, which was
[1:50:28] basically like a we think it was a colony, you know, of
[1:50:36] um uh beings from uh other star systems
[1:50:45] that uh we think we think actually Earth itself was set up to be like a
[1:50:53] almost I I don't want to say a zoo but but certainly a like a nature habitat and we think that a lot of animals were
[1:51:02] actually brought here from other planets like which ones?
[1:51:06] Uh not planets but animals. Well, like like uh like some of the octopuses and and squid, they certainly have a genetic
[1:51:15] marker that they're weird, but I just looked this up and the octopuses have been here for,
[1:51:23] believe it or not, I was shocked by this. octopuses. They're they've found apparently they've found um the the
[1:51:31] remains and bones of octopuses within the sedimentary rock that date back like
[1:51:37] uh past dinosaurs, past sharks. Like they're like 600 million years old or something.
[1:51:44] I believe it. I believe it. Um, like that's what science says today, that octopuses are older older than dinosaurs, which I I didn't I didn't
[1:51:52] realize that there there's there's some indications we believe that suggests that our solar
[1:51:58] system itself was even structured to a certain degree. And let me give you
[1:52:06] an example of that. The which the uh the odds are just astronomically
[1:52:15] almost impossible but we we find it. Um so for example our moon I was going to ask you about the moon.
[1:52:25] So our our moon is exactly if if you were to take uh a hundred if you were to
[1:52:31] take the the the diameter of the moon, right? So it has a radius of 1,080 miles.
[1:52:40] Uh but if we were if we were to take the full diameter of the moon uh and then
[1:52:49] our moon is exactly 108 moon lengths from the earth right
[1:52:56] our sun is 108 sun lengths
[1:53:03] from the earth and then the sun itself is exactly 108
[1:53:09] eight Earth lengths across the the odds of that are
[1:53:19] are and our moon of course is based on its
[1:53:26] size and its relative position to the Earth is is unlike anything else that any
[1:53:33] other moon that we find in the solar system itself. And 1080p is like OG HD too.
[1:53:41] Yeah. Right.
[1:53:41] So, right.
[1:53:42] What is that number? It's like a It's like a sacred geometry.
[1:53:45] Well, it's a sacred It's a sacred number. I mean, we find 108 all over the place. I mean, like for example, there's 108
[1:53:54] moves in Tai Chi. There's 108 beads in a Buddhist rosary. You know, the prayer
[1:54:01] beads. There's that we find that 108 or the number 1080 is a is a number we find
[1:54:10] uh in in in gamatria what's known as gamatria which is the the both the new testament the old testament they utilize
[1:54:18] that I mean the it's said that we take a 180 breaths in an hour um
[1:54:26] the sun's diameter is approximately 864 864,000 miles. Yeah.
[1:54:34] Okay. Which is 108 Earth lengths across. Yeah. I didn't realize that.
[1:54:40] Yeah. So, so I mean, but because of these ratio proportions, this is the reason why the sun and the
[1:54:46] moon appear to be the same length, you know, same size in the sky to us even though they're like further different
[1:54:55] distances apart, right? And they they match relative to the size of the earth which causes this eclipse phenomenon.
[1:55:05] I'll be in Luxor next year for the eclipse.
[1:55:08] Oh, will you? Yeah. Pump man. Six and a half minutes. Yeah. It's going to be cool.
[1:55:13] It's going to be cool. We were we were considering doing a tour out there during that time, but we I we think it's just going to be too too crowded, you know, with everything.
[1:55:25] But but it's going to be cool. It'll be be really cool to see.
[1:55:30] But you know that that type of that type of it almost suggests that the that uh you
[1:55:38] know I mean of course the earth all the planets are by B's law law
[1:55:45] are they're basically separated the distances between the planets follow the Fibonacci sequence. Uh oops. If you
[1:55:55] count in the um uh the asteroid belt between Mars and
[1:56:02] Jupiter, um which we think might have been a planet at one point in time, right? the the Fibonacci sequence is
[1:56:11] it's like one one two three five eight you know it's like you you start out
[1:56:18] uh each each number you know plus the next number equals the next number and that's the distance and we find that all throughout nature.
[1:56:29] It's one of the the signs the Pythagoreans use to suggest
[1:56:38] There's a consciousness behind creation itself because you find that same pattern showing up all the time like in
[1:56:47] how plants grow, how the human body is structured. I mean like you could take
[1:56:54] you know your first knuckle of your your uh finger plus the second knuckle equals
[1:57:01] the f the full finger. You two of these equals your palm.
[1:57:07] two of your palms equals your forearm, you know, obviously then your your fore
[1:57:13] then you get your your full arm. Anyhow, Leonardo da Vinci, you know, showed all those ratio proportions. Uh but there's
[1:57:24] there's but you find it all throughout nature and you also find it with the distance of the planets from each other.
[1:57:32] Uh interestingly too, this kind of screams simulation, doesn't it? It does. Absolutely does. Yeah. It suggests it's all by design. There's there's more to it.
[1:57:42] Maybe not simulation, but creation, I guess, of Yeah. There's an intelligent design.
[1:57:46] Yeah. Yeah. More so than just we're we're we're in balance. Like it's one thing to be in balance, you know, and
[1:57:54] and of course over time we're going to create balance unless we take oursel out of balance, right? But to have all of these these
[1:58:01] numbers is I know people most scientists will say it's just it's just coincidence. It's just coincidence. It just doesn't feel but a certain point like
[1:58:09] I know it literally is if we take that word coincidence, you know, as Carl Yun
[1:58:18] uh originally developed it, it was coincidness like like it it is order.
[1:58:26] There is an order to it, you know, and hearing Randle Carl some of this stuff is just mindblowing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah.
[1:58:34] Randall does a great job with it. Yeah.
[1:58:37] But it's it's it's it's all suggesting it's by design and there a there's a consciousness behind it.
[1:58:45] Um, and I mean even if if the moon itself was just a few degrees closer to the Earth
[1:58:54] or a few degrees away from the Earth, it would it could cause massive
[1:59:01] disruption in our uh in our oceans and and everything else. And uh you think
[1:59:08] the moon was brought there? Do you think it's always been there? Do you think it's like what what do you think? What are some There's a lot of weird things about the moon.
[1:59:15] A lot of weird things about the moon. Um including the fact that uh
Chapter 9: The Moon
[1:59:22] can you know we consider this the the sea of tranquility region which is like the kind of the face of the moon where
[1:59:30] there's all that green glass. That's all vitrification which they say came from
[1:59:38] uh you know space rocks, asteroids and stuff hitting hitting it but but they would have to almost come in and go around the earth.
[1:59:49] Yeah. To hit it. Yeah. They shed the block really well.
[1:59:53] Right. Which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I mean and and uh according to a
[2:00:01] lot of the ancient Vadic texts for example like the Ramayana and the uh Mahabarata
[2:00:08] uh they actually talk about these wars in antiquity where there was these these nuclear weapons
[2:00:17] that were being hurled from the earth to the moon and like there there had been a
[2:00:24] civilization up there at one point in time and and and a war occurred in the heavens and the moon.
[2:00:33] Maybe there's something to that. I mean, I I don't know. I mean, the that vitrification that's up there that we
[2:00:39] we've only been able to achieve through atomic testing. So, um
[2:00:47] it's just weird that the the craters, no matter how big they are, they never get past a certain depth.
[2:00:53] Yeah. You know, the the ringing that we hear that was totally unexpected. Yeah. Like it was hollow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[2:01:00] 2 hours, 1 minute
Yeah. There's a lot of weird things about the moon. I mean, some some people believe it was originally like a big space station.
[2:01:08] Yeah.
[2:01:09] Um it's a lot of speculation when we get into Yeah. It's hard to know.
[2:01:15] And then and then you get into that size thing again, right? between you what the 108 I mean it's it's really
[2:01:23] it's strange perfectly blocks out the sun it doesn't have to I mean it'sact 1400th of the size and it's 1/400th of the distance as
[2:01:30] the sun it's very strange yeah and and actually since the Luna orbiter 5 missions they they've seen um
[2:01:39] NASA has has recorded seeing um flashes not only flashes but they saw domes on the moon.
[2:01:48] Uhhuh.
[2:01:49] And they also saw what what looked to be almost like rovers, like mining operations with with treads going in and
[2:01:57] out of craters and and with with with these um things that were casting
[2:02:05] triangular shadows. So, they shouldn't have they clearly weren't rolling, you know, because they they had triangular
[2:02:12] shadows unless they were on wheels, you know, on treads, you know, and uh they
[2:02:20] they've captured all of that and it suggests that there's there might even to this day be like
[2:02:28] mining operations going on up there. Um, you know, that could be part of what this UAP activity is as well.
[2:02:37] Um, yeah. Interesting. Yeah.
[2:02:40] What what else what else have we not uh talked about uh so far? just been an awesome conversation. But um yeah uh
[2:02:50] well so one of the one of the other things that uh we
[2:02:57] certainly have been looking at was this idea and Timothy Freak gets into this as well is this idea of
[2:03:05] nosis you know knowledge yeah it's it's experiential personal
[2:03:13] experiential knowledge divine knowledge very different than belief.
[2:03:17] Very different than belief or just faith, right?
[2:03:20] You know, faith is faith is uh you know is ju just believe it. Um
[2:03:29] whereas nosis is based on personal knowledge, right? Experience or know experience. One one of the things that
[2:03:37] the Templar order has passed down is a series of initiations,
[2:03:45] ceremonies that are designed to have these experiences, these these gnostic experiences.
[2:03:58] And one of which uh you know without revealing too much it's it's a ceremony
[2:04:06] where the candidate goes through a symbolic death and and raising.
[2:04:16] And we we find this in the ancient stories of the god Osiris in ancient Egypt. We believe that the
[2:04:25] story of Lazarus is is really an initiation, one of these initiation ceremonies.
[2:04:33] Um, and we believe it's it was something that went back to Atlantis with it. When the candidate is raised, they're given a certain hand grip.
[2:04:46] And one of the things that the template order found is as it traveled
[2:04:52] pre-Colus, by the way, to the new world and started meeting with the tribes
[2:05:01] um and with with the with the Mayans and others.
[2:05:06] Um, they all knew, they all had the same initiation ceremony and they all had the same grip, the same handshake.
[2:05:18] And according to the Hopi in particular, they say that this was given to
[2:05:26] everybody like the priesthood uh of Atlantis.
[2:05:32] They don't call it Atlantis, but they say the pre-ivilization prior to the last shaking of the earth
[2:05:41] and that uh and then that all the races of people were sent in different directions
[2:05:49] uh and then the cataclysm happened and that the ant people or the ant friends
[2:05:56] as they put it took them underground, took the Hopi underground to survive in caves.
[2:06:04] Well, it just so happens that the hopy word for ant is Anu and friend is naki.
[2:06:13] So, ant friend in uh the hopey language is Anunnaki. Well, that's a heck of a coincidence.
[2:06:21] It's a pretty big coincidence.
[2:06:23] Uh then you of course you have the Anunnaki of of the Samrian traditions.
[2:06:29] But we also find this this idea of going underground uh all over the place. And and
[2:06:37] from a Templar perspective, we we think that the Valley of the Kings was originally survival bunkers.
[2:06:51] Uh and that when the pharaohs wanted to be buried there late cuz all those all those tombs
[2:07:01] are actually connected by tunnel networks that go deep down in the ground. They it looks like looks like an
[2:07:10] ant farm. You know, if you ever looked at an ant farm, that's that's what the Valley of the Kings looks like underground. It's connected by all these
[2:07:18] tunnels. And it would have taken thousands of workers to dig out these tunnels. And if you're trying to create
[2:07:26] a place to hide your royalty, uh, which no one knew about, it's not
[2:07:34] very efficient to use thousands of workers and and expect them to keep a secret.
[2:07:40] We think it's more likely that that this these areas were dug out
[2:07:47] prior to the last cataclysm and that the pharaohs wanted to be buried there because that's where their ancestors came out of.
[2:07:57] We even think that it may be possible that the pre-ivilization was advanced enough
[2:08:04] that they understood genetics to a certain degree and they they understood potentially cloning.
[2:08:13] And this is the real reason why the pharaohs went to such trouble
[2:08:20] to be mummified and to have their organs preserved.
[2:08:26] Um because they literally believed that at some point they could be the genetic material could be taken from them and
[2:08:35] they could be or their bodies could be re recreated.
[2:08:41] Um, and that's a that's quite a statement to make, but there's but there's some suggestion of it. Uh, particularly at the temple of Luxor.
[2:08:51] Um, there there's a particular wall that that suggests this genetic engineering.
[2:09:00] 2 hours, 9 minutes
Um, and the pharaohs also
[2:09:08] certainly they had depictions of the book of the dead uh on the temple walls of their tombs,
[2:09:15] but they also tried to preserve other things related to what they understood the history of pre-Egypt was.
[2:09:27] And they show things like all these different races of the earth
[2:09:34] coming to Egypt in boats and and bringing animals with them.
[2:09:44] Uh like in the one of the tombs that we show when we do our tours
[2:09:51] actually shows people with baby woolly like these white guys with uh red beards and and wearing white robes and they
[2:10:00] 2 hours, 10 minutes
have these big clubs and they have baby woolly mammoths and giant sloths on leashes.
[2:10:09] Well, what I mean, these were animals that went extinct during the last cataclysm. The Egyptians shouldn't have even known
[2:10:18] about them. Number one, and number two, why are they being depicted on these
[2:10:25] Egyptian temple walls, right? It wouldn't make any sense unless they were trying to preserve the memory.
[2:10:33] They also show people with with boomerangs, people with chopsticks,
[2:10:41] uh people with uh vases that were of uh you know specific cultures.
[2:10:50] Um but they were showing people from all over the world coming there to Egypt
[2:10:58] and and also bringing with them different plants, different animals, different uh things to to preserve it.
[2:11:12] And we think it's because those those what are now tombs
[2:11:20] um were originally survival shelters and that the Egyptians just the pharaohs later
[2:11:29] reutilized them and turned them into tombs because that's where their ancestors came out of after the cataclysm.
[2:11:37] Fascinating. Um, and there's other indications surrounding Egypt of
[2:11:44] uh the age of Leo being the foundations of
[2:11:51] the Egyptian civilization.
[2:11:57] And uh but also that like if you go to um
[2:12:06] Carac for example, there's there's the avenue of sphinxes that connects Luxor to Carac,
[2:12:14] right? And as those sphinxes start to enter into Carac,
[2:12:21] the the sphinxes have um
[2:12:27] they have ram heads because these were
[2:12:36] it's almost like the these s these sphinxes were being created during the age of Aries.
[2:12:43] And so the the god Ammoon was being depicted as a ram, but they have lion bodies.
[2:12:51] And they're saying that their foundations came out of the age of Leo, but the god Am Moon at this at the time
[2:13:00] 2 hours, 13 minutes
where they were making uh Carac was during the age of Aries. Um, but they're they're pushing it back.
[2:13:09] And it just so happens that during the age of Leo is that's when the younger dest cataclysm occurred.
[2:13:17] Uh it's also um
[2:13:23] it's also exactly halfway around the zodiac from where the age we're going into right now, the age of of Aquarius.
[2:13:33] Right? So during the age of Pisces, which was the last 2,000 years, the opposite side of the zodiac was Virgo.
[2:13:43] Um, now we're going to the age of Aquarius. The opposite side of the zodiac is Leo.
[2:13:53] So, it may be that we're, you know, we're we're literally halfway around the zodiac from when that cataclysm occurred.
[2:14:03] Uh, and you know, there's speculation on does that mean in another 12,000 years we're
[2:14:11] going to be going through a part of the solar system that's or the the galaxy that's going to
[2:14:19] where we're going to have that cataclysm again or or are we now going into a time where we could potentially have that cataclysm?
[2:14:29] Uh, we we just don't we don't know. I mean, for sure, but uh but there's certainly some suggestion of it.
[2:14:38] It's kind of interesting.
[2:14:39] I'm ready to be done with Pisces. I'm all set. Yeah, me too.
[2:14:44] Me, too. You know, Pisces was an age of if you look at the zodiacal sign, it's it's two fishes swimming in opposite directions.
[2:14:53] Uhhuh.
[2:14:54] And it so it kind of represents duality, you know, and constant struggle.
[2:15:01] Everything's black or white, right?
[2:15:03] You know, right? Liberal or conservative. Yeah.
[2:15:08] Dead or alive, you know? I mean, it's like this constant like struggle or whatever, right? Exactly. Um, we're going into the
[2:15:15] age of Aquarius, which we still have dualities. It's two streams, but they're flowing together.
[2:15:22] So, it's like the dualities reconcile into a third point. And I think Yeah, that'd be nice. That's what this
[2:15:30] the the US government was originally set up to be.
[2:15:34] Um but we just haven't quite gotten there.
[2:15:39] Yeah. It's just gotten a little bit dysfunctional.
[2:15:41] Yeah, exactly. I mean, we have such extremes right now. But um the hope is,
[2:15:49] you know, they're two wings of the same bird, right? And that we can get it together, right? You know that's that's how the
[2:15:57] bird flies. It's also uh from a esoteric standpoint it rep it's the temperance
[2:16:04] card right where you have two two uh streams being poured into the same cup and that cup is really the
[2:16:12] grail right and the the grail represents the really it represents the connecting
[2:16:20] point between our individual consciousness and that collective universal consciousness.
[2:16:30] and uh which is composed of duality and it has to reconcile there. I mean
[2:16:38] that's and and there's a number of different you certainly find with within Buddhism
[2:16:47] and Dowoism this idea of balance of of duality.
[2:16:53] Um, but you also find it in in the um well, you find it in the the
[2:17:01] Judeo-Christian scriptures and in Islam too. There it's just in a it's it's in a different form, you know. It's uh more
[2:17:09] of a uh every Hebrew letter and every Greek
[2:17:16] letter corresponds to a number. And so there's a whole gamatria codes uh within the Bible that are that are all based on this this balanced duality.
[2:17:29] I mean uh an example is um
[2:17:36] for example the number 666 in antiquity was a number of transmutation had nothing to do with the devil.
[2:17:46] It had to do with change and transformation.
[2:17:51] Uh for example uh the
[2:17:58] at the the last the 22nd letter of the Hebrew alphabet was the letter tav which means cross
[2:18:08] and it's composed of three of the Hebrew letter vow which means nail.
[2:18:15] So you literally have a cross and three nails at the end of the Hebrew alphabet.
[2:18:20] Well, that existed long before Jesus, which suggests that was grafted onto the story.
[2:18:28] Uh, the human skull also has 22 bones in it, which is why this a skull was
[2:18:36] sometimes the symbol for the 22nd letter of the Hebrew alphabet. Well, goltha also means skull.
[2:18:45] So human skull 22 bones tav cross is has three vow in it three
[2:18:55] nails well those three nails those three vow also have a numeric value of six so you
[2:19:03] have 666 so you literally have Jesus being crucified with three nails or
[2:19:10] three vow that's 666 she had nothing to do with the devil. It had to do with transformation.
[2:19:19] Well, the other number that we find within the the the Bible again and again and again is the number 1080.
[2:19:30] I didn't realize that.
[2:19:31] Yeah. Like the Holy Spirit in Greek grammatri adds up to 1080.
[2:19:37] And it had to do with the the this the the spirit behind creation.
[2:19:45] So if you're talking about transmutation or change of with spirit,
[2:19:53] you know, one's very material, the other is very spiritual.
[2:19:58] You take 1080 and and 666 and you add them together, you get this number 1746.
[2:20:07] And there are numerous examples of this number that show up in the New Testament. But example, one of them is
[2:20:15] um in Greek, a grain of mustard seed adds up to 1746.
[2:20:25] Well, that means when Jesus said the kingdom of heaven is a grain of mustard seed, he wasn't saying that it was,
[2:20:33] you know, a tiny little seed is is heaven. He was saying it it was balance,
[2:20:41] you know, it was it was it was finding balance.
[2:20:45] And it it's and this is found in those number codes.
[2:20:49] Incidentally, uh, let there be light in Hebrew also adds up to 666.
[2:20:56] So, how do you mean?
[2:20:57] Well, no. So, like if you replace every Greek, you replace every Hebrew letter
[2:21:04] for its numeric counterpart and then add up that phrase 666 adds up to 666.
[2:21:11] So, the these there's these codes all throughout the Bible, both the Old Testament or Torah and the New Testament.
[2:21:19] And this is part of that symbolic language, you know, that was initiatic.
[2:21:26] I mean, um, or another example is in before we do that, I got to get a bioick real quick. Let's let's come back.
[2:21:35] Oh, yeah. So, we were talking about the number 1746 and and how this was a number of balance.
[2:21:43] Grain of mustard seed adds up to this.
[2:21:48] Um but other examples of gamatria throughout the Bible include um
[2:21:55] Jesus in Greek adds up to 888.
[2:22:02] So his name in Greek, you know, if you replace every Greek letter for its numeric counterpart,
[2:22:09] his name adds up to 888, which is in the ancient number cannon
[2:22:16] was a number of what was known as the Agawad.
[2:22:20] And this is why the Templars actually built their their commanderies as as these eight-sided structures.
[2:22:31] Uh it's also why you find it in Islam a lot of tombs are built uh eight-sided
[2:22:39] as well and the dome of the rock is eight-sided but there was uh the uh
[2:22:47] the agawad represented the state of nosis and it was believed that we had like seven seals
[2:22:57] which were the seven chakra or the seven psychic centers
[2:23:03] of our spiritual body. And once those were open, it led to the agawad, which was the state of nosis,
[2:23:12] which was and so that's what his name 888 literally alludes to.
[2:23:21] Um other other examples of of
[2:23:28] Enoch in in Hebrew Gamatria adds up to 555 555.
[2:23:36] So these number patterns anytime a number is repeated a bunch it's alluding to this this idea.
[2:23:46] Uh we were talking about the Fibonacci sequence earlier in the garden of Eden,
[2:23:54] the serpent that reveals that opens uh that that that that gives the the the
[2:24:03] fruit that opens the eyes of Adam and Eve is uh the word serpent in uh Hebrew is neesh.
[2:24:16] and it has a gamatria value of 358 which is which is part of the Fibonacci sequence. So 1 1 2 3 58.
[2:24:29] So it's almost like you have God and then you have Adam one one and then you
[2:24:36] have Adam and Eve which is two and then you have the serpent which whose name literally is 358. So
[2:24:44] you're giving yourself it's the Fibonacci sequence that's that's encoded into that that story.
[2:24:53] Um and so there's a lot of that throughout all sacred texts but also the Bible
[2:25:01] and uh this is another thing that Templars have studied.
[2:25:06] Um Old Testament was written in Hebrew or in Hebrew. Yeah.
[2:25:12] Yeah. New Testament was written in Greek, right?
[2:25:15] Um with a little bit of Hebrew, a little bit of Aramaic in there, but primarily
[2:25:22] in Greek New Testament. So, but they both both Hebrew and
[2:25:29] Greek are alpha numeric languages. So, they use the letter to correspond to a
[2:25:36] number. And so once you understand that words and phrases, you can add them up and they they allude to these things.
[2:25:48] It's also for this reason that from a Templar perspective, Revelations
[2:25:58] uh was a symbolic document uh in and the the the the opening of the
[2:26:07] seven seals before revelations was really about the opening of the seven
[2:26:15] psychic centers or chakra uh before the opening to nosis, revelations, divine knowledge.
[2:26:25] And so with the opening of each seal, our
[2:26:32] uh old perceptions of the world die off and our new perception perceptions open
[2:26:40] and and that's the process of awakening.
[2:26:42] That's the process of awakening. and and each there are 22 chapters in Revelations and
[2:26:50] each chapter or section corresponds to one of the 22 Hebrew letters
[2:26:57] and each of those Hebrew letters also correspond to a different part of the human body.
[2:27:04] So, you're talking about the recreation of of the human body and
[2:27:10] the psychic body in a new form with revelations. Mhm.
[2:27:16] And it really had nothing to do with the end of the world. Okay.
[2:27:21] Um cuz again, Jesus adds up to 888. But also
[2:27:29] where it talks about the seven churches in revelations.
[2:27:35] Well, the seven churches in Greek gamashria also adds up to 888.
[2:27:42] So I mean these patterns are there for a reason. They're they're they're they're not just coincidence.
[2:27:50] uh they they were they're incorporated in the document to reveal
[2:27:57] this process of awakening. And um and so again, it doesn't have anything
[2:28:06] to do with the actual end of the world or or the devil coming to
[2:28:13] create destruction or anything like that. It has to do with transmutation of our
[2:28:22] mundane consciousness into a new higher awakening.
[2:28:29] And that uh it was also believed by the the Templar traditions that
[2:28:39] the the seven deadly sins represented blockages to our seven psychic centers.
[2:28:49] And that or our seven chakra and that the the four cardinal virtues
[2:28:56] and the three heavenly virtues were the things that
[2:29:04] caused those those seven deadly sins those seven blockages to become unblocked.
[2:29:10] So like um so the seven deadly sins correlated corresponded with the seven chakras.
[2:29:18] Correct. Well, the blockages of the seven chakras and then the seven virtues are what opened them. So like the the there the
[2:29:27] the the there was the four cardinal virtues which were uh which were uh temperance, prudence, prudence, justice
[2:29:36] and fortitude and then the three heavenly virtues which were faith, hope and charity.
[2:29:42] So those seven virtues overtook the seven deadly sins.
[2:29:50] So like um prudence overtook lust, temperance overtook gluttony as examples.
[2:30:01] Uh but each of those there was a correlation and that as each of those
[2:30:08] uh seven seals were then opened through the virtues.
[2:30:13] This is this uh suppressed the seven deadly sins
[2:30:20] and it led one to this eighth sphere the agawad which was the nosis.
[2:30:28] It also just so happens that the first six, according to the eastern traditions, the
[2:30:36] first six chakra have a total of 144 pedals on them. And
[2:30:44] the seventh chakra, the crown chakra, is the thousandth pedal chakra. And as
[2:30:51] the thousand pedal chakra opens, it empowers the other 144
[2:30:59] pedals, thus totaling 144,000
[2:31:06] uh expressions of these seven chakras becoming open, these these seals.
[2:31:13] And that's really the meaning behind 144,000 being saved
[2:31:20] in Revelations because once all that is opened that's what leads to Nosis or the auadan the
[2:31:28] eighth sphere which is what Jesus
[2:31:35] totaling 888 and the seven churches totaling 888 in terms of their gamatri. value is alluding to.
[2:31:45] Okay.
[2:31:46] So, this is really the secret behind revelations. And so, this this kind of this message of awakening or the or the process of awakening or whatever you want to call
[2:31:54] it is is kind of seems to be um at a at the center of a lot of the stuff that you talk about and that the Templar
Chapter 10: Templars & Awakening
[2:32:03] that's really what the Grail partaking of the grail, right, is about this this awakening. Yeah.
[2:32:09] Right. So why is that why is that to you today an an important part of your message? Yeah.
[2:32:16] Because it unites us with the it unites the east the western tradition with the eastern traditions.
[2:32:23] It shows that they're all saying the same thing that the that the mana stone of enlightenment in the in the
[2:32:32] western traditions is the mani stone of the eastern traditions the
[2:32:39] chintammani or the uh the mani the precious stone of enlightenment that you
[2:32:46] find like in the Tibetan manip um it's it's It's we're talking about the same thing
[2:32:55] and that reincarnation was originally a part of both systems.
[2:33:01] Uh uh and that we're a lot more united as a
[2:33:09] world than people realize. And it all ties into consciousness.
[2:33:14] And as we understand this consciousness more that we're living in a consciousness
[2:33:21] field, um we we believe also that the UAPs
[2:33:28] that we're seeing, they have a some sort of a consciousness technology interface.
[2:33:40] um they've they've figured out a way to to adapt their their their technology to also pick up on consciousness itself.
[2:33:50] Um and uh and we know this through field exercises where we
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we literally we go out in the field and we we can consciously bring in UAPs,
[2:34:08] right? Yeah. You talked about that the last time we talked, right? And so if we're living in a consciousness field
[2:34:15] and as we develop our technology in the years ahead, it it has to also be geared towards
[2:34:24] understanding consciousness itself.
[2:34:29] And I think uh this is what's going to bring us closer to this
[2:34:36] other community that uh we believe exists out there in space from these
[2:34:44] other civilizations that uh helped to set up the root civilization.
[2:34:50] So this message is critical in your message and and so what can people do? I mean what like in in the real world
[2:34:57] today if people are attempting to kind of um attain a state of nosis or you know what what is it what are what are
[2:35:05] the steps or the physical actions or the realizations or I mean it's one thing to say okay all these are kind of related
[2:35:12] that's cool yeah we got some some info to back it up but practically how do we apply it right well the first is recognizing that uh
[2:35:21] civilization large parts of civilization is is is basically like a prison planet,
[2:35:30] right? That that there are control systems that are put in place.
[2:35:37] And the first stage of of awakening is is recognizing that um and that who you are is beyond those
[2:35:45] control systems, that conditioning that's been put upon you.
[2:35:50] Uh there's all kinds of systems that are that are man-made systems
[2:35:58] uh that are just designed to control people. Yeah, we're in the matrix. We're in the matrix, right?
[2:36:06] We we may actually be in a simulation.
[2:36:10] Uh, I mean like according from the Gnostic perspective, we basically are in a simulation and
[2:36:18] that they're aronic forces that are designed to try to keep us enslaved here. Those are the agent
[2:36:26] smiths from from the matrix.
[2:36:29] Yeah. I simulation or not, civilization for me is is the matrix, you know? It's like 100%.
[2:36:37] Yeah. Yeah. So, so realizing that the first part is of waking up. Yeah. The second part is and then and then thinking about and
[2:36:45] kind of reflecting on okay, so what are the parts of the matrix? What what what are the things within society that I'm
[2:36:51] just sitting here taking as real and as you know uh but but that are just man-made constructs and that have always
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been man-made constructs. And when you start to think back on a lot of those things that kind of guide my decisions and and the way that I live and the way
[2:37:08] that I act on a daily basis, it's like, wow. I mean, there's a lot there's a lot.
[2:37:12] I'm very Yeah. And until you kind of pull yourself out of that and and and can kind of draw a line between uh you
[2:37:20] let go of a lot of the attachments that we have to to the things within the matrix then yeah uh you know that I guess that's a got to be a part of that process of um kind of detangling. Yeah.
[2:37:32] In and in in a lot of religious structures, not just Christianity or not just Judaism or not just Islam, but you
[2:37:41] find it in Buddhism too. Uh you find it in in all kinds of religions have been
[2:37:47] they may have started out as these uh
[2:37:56] they were originally a way of personal awakening but then they became
[2:38:04] institutionalized and they became control mechanisms.
[2:38:08] And recognizing that then we have that allows us to separate the control mechanism from the actual process of
[2:38:17] awakening, right?
[2:38:18] Because we don't want to throw the baby out with the bath water, right? I mean, there's there's there's value in these
[2:38:26] systems, but it's just but we have to see past the control
[2:38:35] mechanisms, right? you know, and so that's that's part of it. So that's part of that process of awakening in in our in our
[2:38:42] opinion. Uh but but also you know the um understanding symbolic system,
[2:38:50] understanding myth, but also being able to a lot of these
[2:38:56] the symbolism is archetypal symbolism and it and it ties in
[2:39:04] um with our consciousness systems that we gain through meditation.
[2:39:11] You know, as as we learn to meditate, as as we learn to go deep within our consciousness
[2:39:20] at a root level, our consciousness speaks through symbolism. That's what dreams are.
[2:39:27] And so as we understand the symbolism and understand that it's symbolism and
[2:39:35] that the myths are structured around the symbolism, what's really being talked about in
[2:39:42] these stories is yes there may be historical
[2:39:49] aspects to these stories but within it is a parable.
[2:39:56] related to our own personal awakening.
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And it's that personal awakening that matters.
[2:40:04] And we believe from a Templar perspective that
[2:40:12] again the the seed of the source of the creator is within everybody.
[2:40:20] And so there's just different stages of awakening.
[2:40:25] And uh there are different as a awakening to different aspects of your own consciousness.
[2:40:33] And this awakening is what's going to completely transform
[2:40:40] the world because it's that awakening that ultimately puts us back in harmony with the natural order of things.
[2:40:51] Uh but we also believe in the future that awakening will be happening with our technology as well.
[2:41:01] And uh that there are civilizations far more advanced than ours that have come here
[2:41:10] and seated this planet in different ways. maybe even set up our our our Earth and our moon and and uh
[2:41:19] you know the way it is um or or had a hand in that in antiquity like far antiquity.
[2:41:28] But uh there's there's a whole other galactic community out there that we are destined
[2:41:36] to join if we can get it together down here.
[2:41:42] But we have to get it together down here first. And part of that is recognizing our interconnectedness.
[2:41:49] It's recognizing our connection to the natural order.
[2:41:54] And it's um and and it's recognizing that we are a part of this this greater sea of
[2:42:02] consciousness that can either be used to liberate us
[2:42:08] to to greater potentials or control us um for the benefit of a few.
[2:42:16] Right. Right.
[2:42:18] So but that that control from the benefit of few is not working. I mean, it's our our planet's out of order.
[2:42:27] I mean, we're we're experiencing one of the the the greatest mass extinction events right now
[2:42:35] since uh really since the last younger dus cataclysm. And but it's but it's it's
[2:42:44] being man-made generated, you know, from uh us
[2:42:51] out of harmony with the natural order of things. So, so then looking forward, yeah, what I mean kind of, you know, to to
[2:43:00] 2 hours, 43 minutes
wrap it up and close it out, what like what gives you optimism and what are the things that you're going to be kind of
Chapter 11: Obtaining Gnosis
[2:43:08] working on over the next year or so to um to to kind of um you know, accomplish what you want to accomplish in life.
[2:43:19] Well, I will say, you know, part of the reason for wanting to reveal these vaults is because
[2:43:26] we recognize that the things within them have symbolic value.
[2:43:31] I mean, they they have they have a practical value to a certain degree, like the arcs.
[2:43:37] Um, even the bones have a certain genetic value because we can we can look at I told you I'd give you a vase for one.
[2:43:47] So yeah, I'm all for it.
[2:43:49] Yeah. Yeah, they've got some value, I think.
[2:43:51] Yeah. I mean, and and and and you know, the if if I understand it right, these
[2:43:59] vaults also have some more apocryphal texts in them.
[2:44:08] Not unlike uh the Najaundi library and the Dead Sea Scrolls that were found in in clay pots. Uh I think some of the
[2:44:17] there was there's some more of that that was that was found um that that are going to be in these
[2:44:24] vaults uh um which will will shed a different perspective on uh the Abrahamic traditions.
[2:44:38] Interestingly, from a Templar perspective, the the we kind of alluded to the the death and raising of Jesus was more of a metaphor.
[2:44:52] And that also tends to fit in line with Islam. I mean, the one thing that
[2:44:58] separates Islam from Christianity is I mean, Islam, they view Jesus as the
[2:45:06] savior as well. They just view Muhammad peace be upon him as the last prophet.
[2:45:14] Uh but they they view Jesus as the savior.
[2:45:19] And uh but they also believe that Jesus didn't die on the cross and that he wasn't bodily resurrected. The Quran says they did not kill him.
[2:45:31] They did not crucify him. They were taken him by an appearance.
[2:45:37] This is the one thing that separated Islam from Christianity. Now, Islam has,
[2:45:45] and I'm talking about the Quran here, uh Islam has created all kinds of hadiths and uh other things that were
[2:45:54] supposed to be the the the the uh the sayings of the prophet Muhammad.
[2:46:06] Uh but if if he actually said all these things, he would have had to have lived like, you know, a hundred years longer
[2:46:14] than he actually lived. So we know they were created by its generals, you know.
[2:46:20] Um, so, so that aside, I I'm not a big proponent of the hadiths, but the but
[2:46:27] the Korean itself, um, you know, it has some things in it that that actually seem to fall in line
[2:46:35] with the tradition. I mean there's uh uh supposedly the
[2:46:43] um the prophet Muhammad had received these things from the
[2:46:50] archangel Gabriel and he uh which is kind of interesting. Uh but
[2:46:57] there are there are aspects to the story that that fit in
[2:47:05] fine with what with the Gnostic understanding and what the what the Templar tradition
[2:47:14] seems seems to suggest you know from from our artifacts. So the hope is all of this kind of
[2:47:24] between the um these mystical aspects of of the tradition and how they tie in with the eastern traditions.
[2:47:35] Um it kind of brings Islam, Judaism and Christianity together in a
[2:47:42] new form. And by the way, the the Quran says that the people of the book are the Jews, the Christians, the Muslims, and the Seabans.
[2:47:54] Well, everyone knows who the Jews, the Christians, the Muslims are. Most people don't know who the Sebians are. The Seabans,
[2:48:02] they come from the region of Haran in Turkey, which is where Goblucky is.
[2:48:09] And the Sebian actually worked with the Templars uh and helped them to find Goblucky. In
[2:48:17] fact, there's there's a bunch of Templar graffiti from the 1200s at Golucky,
[2:48:26] even though it wasn't discovered till the 1990s. Again, you can find old Templar graffiti at it from the 1200s.
[2:48:37] Uh it's because we were researching the order was researching there.
[2:48:43] Um because of the Seabans and the Seabans get their name from Sabah which
[2:48:50] means Stargate just like Sheba.
[2:48:54] Was it underground when it when they were there researching?
[2:48:56] It's the Corey. It's the Corey from where all the stones came from. And that's where you'll find all the Templar graffiti.
[2:49:04] I thought a lot of the stones were just cut right from the mountain right there.
[2:49:07] No, they were there was a quarry and they were they were brought to the to the area and put in place. So, and the
[2:49:15] Templars really had to go out of their way to find that to find that. I mean, it wasn't within their trade routes and everything, but
[2:49:24] you'll find Templar graffiti there at the Corey. In fact, they they they now we're we're kind of calling the site
[2:49:33] Templar Teepe because of the you know, it's where all the stones were dug out from, but it's you can still find all
[2:49:41] this Templar graffiti there from the 1200s. So, um but and the graffiti is what what like
[2:49:49] crosses and Yeah. Templar crosses.
[2:49:52] Words like writing or No, no, just template crosses. Yeah. And uh and then uh the same crosses that
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they put like the the church of the holy supplr in Jerusalem, you know, where they they put their graffiti.
[2:50:07] But the uh and at Egypt, by the way, and all the temples of Egypt, there's you'll find the same templar crosses
[2:50:15] uh because they were studying there. But uh but the Sabans who they met with
[2:50:23] Yeah. They get their name from Saba, which is the Egyptian word for Stargate.
[2:50:28] That's where Queen of Sheba came from that we talked about earlier.
[2:50:32] And the Sabians, they venerated Hermes as a god.
[2:50:40] Uh so when the Muslims came across them that they said uh
[2:50:46] they said uh well, Hermes is a pagan god. You can't
[2:50:53] If you change it to Idris, uh, we're all good.
[2:51:01] And so because so Hermes is Idris and the the Sabians were like, "Okay, sure. Yeah, that's fine." So, so they
[2:51:11] start worshiping Idris. But so when the Quran says the people of the book are the the Jews, the Christians, the
[2:51:17] Muslims, and the Sabian, and what's also interesting about that is if Idrris was Hermes and the Sabbians
[2:51:27] were venerating Idris as Hermes, well, it just so happens that um if you
[2:51:34] go if you look at the Najundi library, which has the oldest
[2:51:41] Christian scriptures in it, which is by the way the Neimadi library is like 10 minutes from the Valley of
[2:51:49] the Kings in Egypt where they found these clay jars with all these early Christian
[2:51:58] um gospels in it as well as other Gnostic gospels. Well, the other thing they found along with those Christian
[2:52:08] gospels was hermetic gospels. hermetic writings which means that these early Christians were also venerating Hermes.
[2:52:20] So you have the the Sebians venerating Hermes. You have and they're considered people of the book in the Quran. You
[2:52:27] have the early Christians at Najimundi that were venerating Hermes.
[2:52:34] The Greeks the Greeks were venerating Hermes.
[2:52:36] They're very Hermes. And of course, of course, Hermes of the Egyptians was to or Tahudi.
[2:52:45] And you had uh Tut Moses, who was Moses,
[2:52:52] uh coming out of Egypt. Well, Tut Moses literally means drawing forth the wisdom of Toth or Tahoodi.
[2:53:02] And that was Moses.
[2:53:04] And that's why Moses was depicting depicted as studying alchemy which was the science of Tahoodi or toth
[2:53:13] or Hermes and it's why uh he was depicted with a he could turn his staff into a serpent
[2:53:22] and back into a staff again. Well, that's the kaducius of Hermes or Tahudi.
[2:53:30] So suggesting there's this hermetic strain all the way from the beginning of
[2:53:37] of Judaism through Christianity and into Islam that has been completely ignored
[2:53:46] but is fundamental within the Templar tradition as well. In fact, uh, Hermes or Toth Tahoodi
[2:53:55] or Tuat of the Phoenicians was deemed to be the inventor of alchemy
[2:54:02] and uh, and in fact the Emerald Tablet of Hermes, which Sir Isaac Newton
[2:54:09] studied and other people, it was um,
[2:54:15] you know, it was cuz Hermes or to was it was an instruction manual for alchemy.
[2:54:23] And uh and this is also why um and of course this alchemical process could be used to make the mana or the monatomic gold.
[2:54:36] And it was uh uh I mean it it was a fundamental part of
[2:54:44] of the whole tradition. And in in the grail legends of Wolf Vanesbach
[2:54:50] from the 1200s, one of the characters in it is a that
[2:54:57] that helps guide Parcal the Grail who becomes the Grail Guardian and the Grail champion.
[2:55:05] Um, it says that the Templars are guarding the Grail and and the Grail is described as this stone that burns the
[2:55:14] Phoenix to ashes after which it comes back renewed and it it helps to keep the
[2:55:20] the Templars from aging and uh it's the philosopher stone
[2:55:27] and the there's a character known as Trevor Rent the hermit who helps to guide Perl throughout about the the the
[2:55:35] story. Well, Trevor means three-fold knower and hermit comes from Hermes.
[2:55:43] So, this character in in the Grail legends is Hermes Tris Majestice or Hermes the three-fold knower, Hermes, the writer of the Emerald Tablet.
[2:55:56] Uh, and it's even described in in the story parcel. It says that the grail originally was an emerald
[2:56:05] that was in Lucifer's crown and that there was a war in heaven and that the
[2:56:12] neutral angels brought this emerald to to earth and that this emerald was the grail.
[2:56:23] Well, the emerald is alluding to this emerald tablet
[2:56:30] which was uh said to be the instruction manual of alchemy.
[2:56:38] It was also believed to be the tablet that was the tablet of testimony that Moses brought down from the mountain.
[2:56:47] And uh he he brought down two tablets.
[2:56:50] one that had the ten commandments on it and the other was this tablet of testimony. And he did he didn't think
[2:56:57] the people were ready yet for the tablet of testimony. So he broke it into pieces.
[2:57:04] Um but it was believed that this same tablet this was the emerald tablet and that uh
[2:57:12] uh according to tradition appalonius of Tyiana also discovered this
[2:57:19] tablet which uh templars believe appalonius of Tyiana was actually the apostle Paul
[2:57:29] and uh Paul just comes from Palonius which means little Apollo.
[2:57:37] Um and Alexander the Great was also said to have discovered this emerald tablet and
[2:57:45] Aristotle was said uh to have helped him translate it and that he used it uh
[2:57:54] knowledge from it to help them on his campaign. So, so there's a rich history here tying into alchemy,
[2:58:03] but also tying into the Hermes and the hermetic tradition.
[2:58:07] And this is a part of Judaism. It's a part of Christianity and it's a part of Islam that has been completely ignored.
[2:58:17] And uh but as Templars, we we we recognize it and we think this is part of what's going to unlock and unite us all.
[2:58:29] Cool. as we understand these sciences going into the future because it's again alchemy is all that process of
[2:58:38] consciousness is a part of
[2:58:45] the physical process in the lab right so this is the future we we believe we believe so
[2:58:52] very cool very cool well good man yeah that's awesome uh it's been a mind-blowing three hours so A lot of information.
[2:59:00] 2 hours, 59 minutes
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Definitely.
[2:59:02] Um, but good stuff as always. I expected it to be a lot after the last one and this certainly lives up to the last one. So, um, good stuff.
Chapter 12: Closing
[2:59:11] Well, we Well, stay tuned for more. It's going to get exciting.
[2:59:14] I'm excited. Yeah, I'm excited to get to next on on the uh on on some digging for sure and some uh some showing the public
[2:59:21] what's underground. So, um looking forward to that on the next year and uh we'll look forward to having you back.
[2:59:27] Um maybe maybe I get out there and live stream that with you or that would be great. Yeah.
[2:59:32] Yeah, it'd be great. I mean I we're we're we want to plan for all of that.
[2:59:38] We want to have people there to to witness it. We want to have uh we want to have the tribal members there
[2:59:46] to to to sanctify it and uh and we want to we want to make it available to the world. So that's that's the that's the goals in the years ahead.
[2:59:57] Love it. Love it. Very exciting stuff, man. Appreciate what you're doing.
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Appreciate you sharing your nosis with the world today and uh we'll do it again sometime. All right. Sounds great. All right.
[3:00:07] Perfect. Thanks, Matt. Yes, sir. Thank you, Tim.